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Article #2962Re: and people wonder why im angry
From: Christopher Mountford
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 00:51
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 00:51
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larryc@teleport.com (Larry Caldwell) writes: >Happy Halloween, Farthing. I know this is rude, but I gotta make an >honest woman out of you. :) >L. J. Farthing <farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >>(Zebee Johnstone) writes: >>>I have seldom if ever seen the kind of thing that seems to haunt >>>Rosie's every move. >[ ... ] >>Or maybe you're not writing the kind of things Rosie writes. >Since when do women get all weak-kneed and flustery at the sight of a >couple four-letter words? Weren't you the one who recently declaimed >that the male solution to female verbal abuse was for men to develop the >same facility with language that women have? Or was that someone else? Hello? <poke><poke> We are not talking about saying, for example, fuck off. We are talking about systematic rejetion of the legitimacy of feminist perspective, manifested sometimes with a 'fuck off' or a 'you're full of shit', but no-one is being weak-kneed and flustery. >Rosie posted an Emily Post netiquette whine to a batch of confrontational >newsgroups. It's extremely difficult to protect her delicate feminine >sensibilities under those circumstances. I think your efforts to play >Miss Manners are futile, and teaching Rosie what a bit bucket is would >more useful. You are the subject of Rosie's complaint. I don't expect this to get through to you but hopefully someone else reading this will understand that people who dismiss a call to understand the ingrained opression of women and their so called 'radical feminazi' ideas are precisely the problem which Rosie has said she is sick of. It is true she did cite instances of straight abuse and they, for obvious reasons, get to her. But the point that *systematic* *ingrained* *dismissal* of feminist views is the oppression she fingers. Open your mind to the possibility that it is you who need to be *taught* not her. >Are you saying that whiners and complainers are justified? Just >checking. I am saying categorically that who you are calling 'whiners and complainers' are in every respect justified. Have you been reading? >-- >Larry Caldwell larryc@teleport.com Engine.
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