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Article #2972Re: and people wonder why im angry
From: Donovan M. Winch
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 01:18
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 01:18
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rosiex@jolt.mpx.com.au (Rosie Cross) writes: : So many people wonder why they meet a lot of angry women in cyberspace.., : perhaps its got something to do with the amount of unsolicited hate mail : women have to endure for simply having an opinion. I have included an : example below not only because I think it rightly demonstrates the degree : to which boys are allowed to get away with it, but it also demonstrates : the way language and hate have become acceptable pastimes of a faceless : medium..I really do think that the only way the net can progress is to : convey a majority disdain at this type of attitude. I am appealing to : anyone who thinks that this sort of rubbish should not be allowed to : continue. This recent response to one of my posts is not as vicious nor : violent as some I have received but certainly indicates that there are : some rather nasty people out there. Why does it bother me, 1 I don;t : think responses like this are warranted. 2. I care that people think they : can say anything and somehow avoid any repurcussion or social consequence : 3. Im sick to death of it and would like some support in dealing with it. : 4. After 4 years of deep seated mysoginy, I simply refuse to accept it : without stating my opinion and recording my disgust. : ========================================================================= <SNIP!> Now, I don't know whether this'll even get through, as often this thing only posts locally, but not always (?!?). I must also point out, before I begin, that this has very little, if anything, to do with alt.cyberpunk, and is thus in the wrong group - sorry ;-) Anyway, onwards we go: I must say I agree with you Rosie, that a flaming of this sort seems unwarranted (emphasis on the word 'seems', as I have not 'heard' the previous messages), but I can't see what it could possibly have to do with women in particular being victimised on the 'net as you have stated above. So, you are a woman who is being victimised? Okay, but this does not mean that sexism on the 'net is in play, rather it is ONE female being victimised! There are many examples of males being flamed too, so there is no point in bringing in sexism as a pseudo-cause. I do support you in your quest for 'net etiquette (if that is what you seek), but this particular breach seems (again, emphasis on this word) to be unrelated to sexism in general, and female degradation in particular. : **** please post your disapproval to Dwayne about his language and : attitude.., if you agree with him, Id rather not hear from you,..with : thanks.RosieX I must also say, that posting this to a newsgroup (remember, it IS worldwide) is presumably supposed to promote discussion on the topic (which it has). Thus, restricting any comments to those agreeing with you is, in fact, a form of prejudice (sp?), of which, like sexism, you should be opposed to. If you post an article to a newsgroup, often it is wise to consider the possible replies first, which you have, but, to not breach 'net etiquette, you must also allow discussion on both (or more if necessary :-) areas of the topic. Silk. (winch@ist.flinders.edu.au)
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