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Article #2976Re: and people wonder why im angry
From: Christopher Mountford
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 06:42
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 06:42
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hiscdcj@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Dwayne Jones-Evans) writes: >Zebee Johnstone (zjohnsto@scu.edu.au) wrote: >: People who post impolite posts whther they do so to stir up trouble >: or they do so to make a point, will get flamed. It is the nature of the >: human animal. I am simply stating that I don;t believe such flaming is >: due to them being women. >In this instance, it was because she was a journalist. The first time >gender was mentioned in the mailing list (why it was taken to a >newsgroup I have no idea) was when rosie started whining about us >"oppressing" (read: not totally agreeing with her) her. >Dwayne. My point is now and always was that opression and not agreeing are often confused by the people who do the opressing and that this is a structural feature of the net and of RL. I think too often men don't realise when they are opressing women because they ignore other ways of thinking. I make no judgement about you or your actions, similarly decline your offer to make any about Rosie. Don't do what you hated her to do either remember, not that, if you are 100% right, you wouldn't be pissed off enough to forget that point, but it's always my rule of thumb that the truth is somewhere inbetween. If Rosie has a problem with you then I will and did leave that to her. But if any woman feels opressed, I've seen it enough to want to help her fight it. Even if you were right about everything you said. There has been very little real personal backlash against anyone but rosie on these news groups in this thread. I have been defending my perception of the generic problems faced by women as characterised by what Rosie said about how *she* *felt* she had been treated. But I don't take sides with personal arguments. Engine.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10f38d,a8c6f929d2b02806 X-Google-Attributes: gid10f38d,public X-Google-Thread: fa7f6,a8c6f929d2b02806 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa7f6,public X-Google-Thread: f5de8,a8c6f929d2b02806 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5de8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-11-02 22:42:42 PST Newsgroups: aus.org.efa,alt.cyberpunk,alt.feminism Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!nntp.gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!sunic!trane.uninett.no!ifi.uio.no!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!metro!extro!cjmount From: cjmount@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Christopher Mountford) Subject: Re: and people wonder why im angry Message-ID: <cjmount.783844962@extro> Sender: news@ucc.su.OZ.AU Nntp-Posting-Host: extro.ucc.su.oz.au Organization: Information Services, Sydney University, Sydney, NSW, Australia References: <783293686snz@bvision.demon.co.uk> <3916m7$rl5@inferno.mpx.com.au> <CyIDuF.41D@scu.edu.au> <391oks$799@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <CyIvF7.F59@scu.edu.au> <1994Nov2.142535.1632@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 06:42:42 GMT Lines: 38