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Re: electronic freedom

#2987
From: Andy Chang
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 04:22
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In article <399o1p$c59@inferno.mpx.com.au> rosiex@jolt.mpx.com.au (Rosie Cross) writes:
>From: rosiex@jolt.mpx.com.au (Rosie Cross)
>Subject: electronic freedom
>Date: 3 Nov 1994 04:13:45 GMT

>I know people get annoyed at my posts, and I get up people's noses because 
>of this..I apologise for anyone who has been inconvenienced by my 
>suggestions that sexism exists on the net. From my experience it does. 
>What more can I say except state the facts and ask for opinion. However, 
>I do not lie and this situation in my opinion has gone far enough. Not only 
>has my reputation been brought into question , but I am now accussed of
>making statements which are so far fetched I am at a loss how to deal with
>it and shocked that someone has gone as far as saying I called them a 
>"rapist." I have never ever called anyone a rapist and have not ever ever
>posted such a slanderous lie about anyone on the net. My first reaction was
>to assume there must be another Rosie Cross my accuser is confusing me with. 
>I have no explanation why someone else should use my name, if indeed this has
>happened, or why someone should if they have gone to the lengths of setting 
>me up, suggest I should say such a thing..

>Initially I posted to the Usenet groups who I thought would respond and 
>offer intellectual open debate about the issue of sexism on_line. I 
>especially felt it important to gauge a reaction from EFA cos it was my 
>belief that this organisation was originally designed to protect and 
>encourage electronic freedom and work towards equitable social and 
>technical solutions to foster the use of the internet by all peoples: 
>whether they be women or other minority groups. Its true not all women 
>have been attacked on the net and being "vocal" about a subject most 
>people do not want to hear about often polarises the issue & causes flame 
>wars. This sincerely was not my intention and for those who accuse me of 
>it, I am saddened by your lack of acknowledgement of the problem and 
>devastated how genuine appeals for support and help become the focus of 
>text based hate wars which I now seem to be at the centre of. In an 
>effort not to escalate this matter further on_line, I am investigating 
>who/how/what/why/where this has happened. I certainly would have hoped 
>there is a limit to the extent some people will go to. 

>I am extremely upset by the fact that assumptions can be made about 
>a persons mental state, their integrity, their motives, & 
>professionalism based on evidence which may turn out to be doctored or 
>due to a simple mistaken identity. I would very much like to see the
>"evidence" against me and I would hope that this matter can be resolved.
>Needless to say I don;t write as well as other people and I am often 
>frustrated by my own inability to express a view without coming across 
>like a fruitcake or someone with a cross to bear.
> 
>I know that this is boring especially to people who have accussed me of 
>being a whining scumbag nobody whacko journo,.,._but_ I think if anyone 
>of you were in the same or similar situation you would be doing your damn 
>best to get to the bottom of it and try and seek support from the people 
>who you would imagine to be like minded, fair and intelligent 
>individuals who can tell when someone is being "rolled".

2 points for you to digest:

1 - dont even BOTHER justifying yourself here.  there are too many idiots 
who would never get out of their little rooms, get away from the computer 
for a while, come back and read what you've had to say and understand that 
name-calling is stupid.

2 - in this alt.feminism group at least, being a male guarantees you being 
abused for your gender, while being a female gives you authority in what 
you have to say.  and this is happening all over any society today, and 
thats what feminism has achieved.

>RosieX
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From: accha3@MFS02.cc.monash.edu.au (Andy Chang)
Newsgroups: aus.org.efa,alt.cyberpunk,alt.feminism,mpx.aarnet
Subject: Re: electronic freedom
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 04:22:55 GMT
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