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Article #2987Re: electronic freedom
From: Andy Chang
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 04:22
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 04:22
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In article <399o1p$c59@inferno.mpx.com.au> rosiex@jolt.mpx.com.au (Rosie Cross) writes: >From: rosiex@jolt.mpx.com.au (Rosie Cross) >Subject: electronic freedom >Date: 3 Nov 1994 04:13:45 GMT >I know people get annoyed at my posts, and I get up people's noses because >of this..I apologise for anyone who has been inconvenienced by my >suggestions that sexism exists on the net. From my experience it does. >What more can I say except state the facts and ask for opinion. However, >I do not lie and this situation in my opinion has gone far enough. Not only >has my reputation been brought into question , but I am now accussed of >making statements which are so far fetched I am at a loss how to deal with >it and shocked that someone has gone as far as saying I called them a >"rapist." I have never ever called anyone a rapist and have not ever ever >posted such a slanderous lie about anyone on the net. My first reaction was >to assume there must be another Rosie Cross my accuser is confusing me with. >I have no explanation why someone else should use my name, if indeed this has >happened, or why someone should if they have gone to the lengths of setting >me up, suggest I should say such a thing.. >Initially I posted to the Usenet groups who I thought would respond and >offer intellectual open debate about the issue of sexism on_line. I >especially felt it important to gauge a reaction from EFA cos it was my >belief that this organisation was originally designed to protect and >encourage electronic freedom and work towards equitable social and >technical solutions to foster the use of the internet by all peoples: >whether they be women or other minority groups. Its true not all women >have been attacked on the net and being "vocal" about a subject most >people do not want to hear about often polarises the issue & causes flame >wars. This sincerely was not my intention and for those who accuse me of >it, I am saddened by your lack of acknowledgement of the problem and >devastated how genuine appeals for support and help become the focus of >text based hate wars which I now seem to be at the centre of. In an >effort not to escalate this matter further on_line, I am investigating >who/how/what/why/where this has happened. I certainly would have hoped >there is a limit to the extent some people will go to. >I am extremely upset by the fact that assumptions can be made about >a persons mental state, their integrity, their motives, & >professionalism based on evidence which may turn out to be doctored or >due to a simple mistaken identity. I would very much like to see the >"evidence" against me and I would hope that this matter can be resolved. >Needless to say I don;t write as well as other people and I am often >frustrated by my own inability to express a view without coming across >like a fruitcake or someone with a cross to bear. > >I know that this is boring especially to people who have accussed me of >being a whining scumbag nobody whacko journo,.,._but_ I think if anyone >of you were in the same or similar situation you would be doing your damn >best to get to the bottom of it and try and seek support from the people >who you would imagine to be like minded, fair and intelligent >individuals who can tell when someone is being "rolled". 2 points for you to digest: 1 - dont even BOTHER justifying yourself here. there are too many idiots who would never get out of their little rooms, get away from the computer for a while, come back and read what you've had to say and understand that name-calling is stupid. 2 - in this alt.feminism group at least, being a male guarantees you being abused for your gender, while being a female gives you authority in what you have to say. and this is happening all over any society today, and thats what feminism has achieved. >RosieX
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