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Stan wrote:
> "Hunter" <kenhunter45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165632338.217949.227660@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Stan wrote:
> >> "Hunter" <kenhunter45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1165624352.227773.264650@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Stan wrote:
> >> >> "o'contraire" <i.contrarian@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1165619719.462083.120430@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > Bring David home now!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > SATURDAY DEC. 9
> >> >> >
> >> >> > NATIONAL DAY OF ACTION
> >> >> >
> >> >> > *Sydney: SATURDAY DECEMBER 9
> >> >> > 12 NOON @ SYDNEY TOWN HALL
> >> >> > *Adelaide: SATURDAY DECEMBER 9
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 11am VICTORIA SQUARE
> >> >> >
> >> >> > *Melbourne: SATURDAY DECEMBER 9
> >> >> > 2pm FEDERATION SQUARE
> >> >> > *Perth: SATURDAY DECEMBER 9
> >> >> > 12 NOON PICA (Vigil starting Friday 8 Dec. from 1pm till noon on
> >> >> > Dec. 9
> >> >> > @ WESLEY UNITING CHURCH)
> >> >> > *Brisbane: SATURDAY DECEMBER 9
> >> >> > 2pm QUEEN'S PARK (Cnr George & Elizabeth Sts.)
> >> >> > * Canberra: Saturday Dec. 9, contact Amnesty
> >> >> > Endorsed by: Terry Hicks, Fair Go for David, Stop the War Coalition
> >> >> > Sydney, Civil Rights Defence Melbourne, Liberty Victoria, Justice
> >> >> > Action, Australian Muslim Civil Rights Advocacy Network (AMCRAN),
> >> >> > Canterbury-Bankstown Peace Group, Justice for Hicks & Habib, CFMEU,
> >> >> > NTEU, Islamic Friendship Association, Amnesty International
> >> >> > Australia,
> >> >> > Peace Convergence, Pennant Hills Peace Group, Western Sydney Peace
> >> >> > Group, RIIA; Just Peace WA, Stop the War Coalition Brisbane, Qld.
> >> >> > Council for Civil Liberties, Fair Go for Palestine; Australian
> >> >> > Democrats; Communist Party of Australia; Progressive Labor Party,
> >> >> > Socialist Alliance; NSW Greens; Qld Greens; Senator Kerry Nettle;
> >> >> > Labor
> >> >> > MP Daryl Melham; Dr Tim Anderson; Brian Brunt, PNG human rights
> >> >> > lawyer;
> >> >> > Businessman Dick Smith & Australian Lawyers Alliance.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Speakers include: Terry Hicks, Greens Senators Kerry Nettle & Bob
> >> >> > Brown, Democrats Senator Andrew Bartlet, Andrew Ferguson (CFMEU),
> >> >> > Brett
> >> >> > Collins (Justice Action), Agnes Chong (AMCRAN), Lex Lasry, Terry
> >> >> > O'Gorman, Rob Stary, Labor MP Nicola Roxon, Brian Degan, Charles
> >> >> > Southwood, Professor Leon Lag, Mem Fox, Halim Rane, Labor MP Claire
> >> >> > Moore, Greens Juanita Wheeler, Amnesty's Kate Wood & Nicole Bieske;
> >> >> > &
> >> >> > ex political prisoners Kay Danes and Mamdouh Habib. [Major Mori is
> >> >> > currently visiting David in Guantanamo]
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In Sydney join us at 12noon at Sydney Town Hall - wear orange, bring
> >> >> > drums & placcards.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For details of other events, please access:
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope somebody gets hold of an old WW2  flame-thrower and sprays the
> >> >> lot
> >> >> of
> >> >> you with it.
> >> >
> >> > That's a terrible thing to say Stan.  I have followed your posts over
> >> > time because I thought you were a well read individual with heaps of
> >> > real world experience.  Real world experience that is sadly lacking by
> >> > some who post to this NG.
> >> >
> >> > Being a man of the sea I thought you might have understood David Hick's
> >> > quest for adventure, misguided I know but still someone who wanted to
> >> > get off their arse and go and see what the world had to offer.
> >> > (instead of sitting behind a computer keyboard all day)
> >> >
> >> > David Hicks' only crime is being naive.  When you compare his "crime"
> >> > with that of the AWB who, with the tacit approval of the Howard
> >> > government, donated $300 million (that we know of) to the enemy Hicks
> >> > is a choir boy in comparison.
> >> >
> >>
> >> He went to train to kill his fellow men.  He is not ' naive'.   At his
> >> age
> >> you are not 'naive'.   Quest for adventure doesn't include planning to
> >> kill
> >> the people who made life easy for you.   He's a fucking traitor to this
> >> country and should be shot and the people who aid and abet a fucking
> >> traitor
> >> are just as guilty.
> >
> > David Hicks has not been found guilty of anything yet Stan nor has he
> > been charged with any criminal offence relating to betraying this
> > country.   He is yet to face a fair trial.
> >
> > Save your venom for the real traitors.  You can begin with the AWB
> > executive who should by now, if the Howard governments new terrorism
> > laws were applied without fear or favour, be all subject to control
> > orders.
> >
> > As far as your suggestion to turn flame throwers onto your fellow
> > countrymen....you are guilty of inciting the same acts of terrorism as
> > you accuse others of.....
> >
>
> And if  I could get hold of one I wouldn't hesitate.  The traitorous
> bastards.    Traitors are traitors whether they are tried in courts of law
> or not.   Being a traitor is a state of mind.   You don't shit on your own
> people.  He should have been shot on the spot and disposed of when he was
> caught.  You don't FIND them guilty, they ARE guilty.  He was guilty
> *before* he was found.
>
> Even if the Americans let him off he should never be allowed back in this
> country.  Letting him off doesn't make him less a  traitor.  What you  *are*
> is what you are inside your head.   What else can you be?