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On 30/12/2010 20:01, Barry OGrady wrote:
> Anybody who listens to the channel 5 repeater will be aware of the
> frequent requests for people to move off the channel and how the
> requests are usually not heard because the offenders are operating
> simplex on channel 35.
> One way to fix that would be if the repeater could be made to
> TX on 35.
> So the emergency operator transmits on 5 and is relayed on 35 so they
> can be heard. Of course normal 35 in 5 out would need to be retained
> and the ACMA would need to approve.
> Would it be practical?
>

It's a lovely idea Bazza, but unfortunately quite impractical. 
Technically it would require some interesting and complex mods to the 
repeaters. Also expensive.

Second, can you imagine the reaction to an emergency person telling 
idiots to get off the channel on 35? Most common would be a mouthful of 
abuse followed by the assertion that 'we can talk where the fuck we want!'

What you are trying here is the same as I tried during my 3 years as a 
bus driver, educating the ineducable. And trust me, it doesn't work.

Kate vk4xyl - resident cynic

Hello Barry, I think ACMA would say a big no to that.
As a monitor / Licence for many years the problem could be fixed if the 
supply people give out the correct information.
I have had people that we have caught that have said that XYZ  store told us 
to use this channel as it id a quite one that does not get a lot of use.
I had a couple on bikes with a trailer on that got hand held with head sets 
from a place in Sydney and they were told to use ch 35.
They travelled down to Hobart with out any problems,I guess because of all 
the crape on the mainland that they being only low power stations no one had 
heard them.
From my location I could here them and tracked them down and had a friendly 
chat with them,they were shocked to be told what ch 35 was used for,so they 
went o a simplex channel and the end of the problem.
They were very happy that I tracked them down.
Another problem is the truckies come down from ch 40 and work there way down 
to ch35 as the ones between 40 and 35 are local repeaters in Tassie.
When you say to them about it they say,no one else has said any thing up 
North,that's because no one monitor any more.
The day ACMA made it a Class Licence that was the end of UHF CB.
As a licence if we had a problem with 5/35 ACMA did not want know about it 
as they were looking at other problems with government services,we paid the 
licence fee the same as any one else under Apparatus  Licence.
Cheers
Gavin

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Anybody who listens to the channel 5 repeater will be aware of the
frequent requests for people to move off the channel and how the
requests are usually not heard because the offenders are operating
simplex on channel 35.
One way to fix that would be if the repeater could be made to
TX on 35.
So the emergency operator transmits on 5 and is relayed on 35 so they
can be heard. Of course normal 35 in 5 out would need to be retained
and the ACMA would need to approve.
Would it be practical? 

On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 06:22:58 +1000, Kathy <vk4xyl@nospam.no.way>
wrote:

>On 30/12/2010 20:01, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> Anybody who listens to the channel 5 repeater will be aware of the
>> frequent requests for people to move off the channel and how the
>> requests are usually not heard because the offenders are operating
>> simplex on channel 35.
>> One way to fix that would be if the repeater could be made to
>> TX on 35.
>> So the emergency operator transmits on 5 and is relayed on 35 so they
>> can be heard. Of course normal 35 in 5 out would need to be retained
>> and the ACMA would need to approve.
>> Would it be practical?
>>
>
>It's a lovely idea Bazza, but unfortunately quite impractical. 
>Technically it would require some interesting and complex mods to the 
>repeaters. Also expensive.

That's true. It would probably amount to having two repeaters at one
site.

>Second, can you imagine the reaction to an emergency person telling 
>idiots to get off the channel on 35? Most common would be a mouthful of 
>abuse followed by the assertion that 'we can talk where the fuck we want!'

That could happen though I did recently hear an operator successfully
and peacefully move some people, and the I often hear operators
trying.

>What you are trying here is the same as I tried during my 3 years as a 
>bus driver, educating the ineducable. And trust me, it doesn't work.

What about those who genuinely don't know 35 is an emergency
channel?

>Kate vk4xyl - resident cynic