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Re: Why paint items in historic liveries?

#117
From: Greg Rudd
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:17
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Terry Flynn says:

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> "Hunslet" <hunslet@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:tkji71hre02934ies2hn4h8jmolueb8mi0@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:50:33 +1000, Roy Wilke  wrote:
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >I sit corrected -- I assumed that 3801 Ltd was a private railway
>> >operator,
>>
>> Yes, 3801 Limited is a "private operator" using a mixture of rolling
>> stock on loan from StateRail and some stock owned outright (such as
>> d/e locos 4908 & 4918).    These items are not bound by heritage
>> requirements.   Thus it can, and has, painted the 49 class in
>> non-standard liveries.   4916 with the RTM is regarded as the
>> "heritage" representative of the class but if my memory is correct,
>> that unit was donated outright by Freight Rail Corporation to the RTM
>> and so there is no compulsion for it to stay in "heritage" colours -
>> in this case, a modified candy.
>>
>>
>> >Terry's apparent assertion that only he and he alone knows what colour
>> >3801 ought to be painted in was starting to irk me.
>>
> 
> But I have had access to the correct colour. Don't you want to know the
> correct colour?
> 
>> Just what is/are the "correct" heritage colour/s cannot be simply
>> resolved.   I had this problem with the painting of heritage electric
>> locomotive 4638.   There just were no precise records.   Colour slides
>> were unreliable.   I finally arranged for an external paint scrape and
>> we worked off that.   No one could advise the original internal
>> colours and so I had to take an educated guess based on written
>> reports of the time.   (Dsicussions with older drivers gave differing
>> responses!).   The arm-chair "experts" tell me that this is wrong, or
>> that is wrong, but it is up to them to prove their assertions to my
>> satisfaction.
>> >
> 
> My 38 colour is based on paint off the prototype. No arm chairing in this
> case.
> 

Bully for you!! Are we meant to be impressed by this statement??  Which you
continually remind us of ad infanitum.  

>> >BTW, wasn't there a period during WW2 that NSW's streamlined Pacifics
>> >were painted in what would now be called a "low-visibility stealth" grey
>> >paint scheme?
>>
>> Yes, but it was simply grey undercoat.   War-time difficulties!
>>
>> Hunslet.
>>
> 
> I will speculate that it was more likely either a grey being used by the
> Navy at the time  or the dark grey used on goods wagons. (no documentary
> evidence to support either theory). My evidence is a colour print from a
> book published in 1946.
> 

Which being from a print published in a book would be of dubious worth
except as a record,but you knew that, expert. On this one I would put my
money on Pete's explanation pending new evidence if it comes to light.
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From: Greg Rudd <grudd@usyd.edu.au>
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Subject: Re: Why paint items in historic liveries?
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