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I will throw my 6 penneth worth the colour of the 38's were battle ship grey
,we used to go and look at them during lunch break at Broadmeadow high
school, (student there  1945-1948 )which was just over the fence if you
could find it.
FredMorley
"Terry Flynn" <tgflynn@unsw.edu.au> wrote in message
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> "Hunslet" <hunslet@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> > On Wed, 11 May 2005 23:11:45 +1000, mark_newton
> > <mark_newton@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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> > >Greg Rudd wrote:
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> > > >> I will speculate that it was more likely either a grey being used
> > > >> by the Navy at the time or the dark grey used on goods wagons. (no
> > > >> documentary evidence to support either theory). My evidence is a
> > > >> colour print from a book published in 1946.
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> > > > Which being from a print published in a book would be of dubious
> > > > worth except as a record,but you knew that, expert. On this one I
> > > > would put my money on Pete's explanation pending new evidence if it
> > > > comes to light.
> > >
> > >Once again Greg, our "friend" demonstrates how little he understands
> > >about colour printing, and it's limitations.
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> > I will have to support Mark.   I have had a look at the particular
> > book and the illustration.   Despite the indication that it is a
> > "natural" colour photo, I would have to question this as it appears to
> > have been hand tinted.
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> Mark Newton has demonstrated and addmitted he now's nothing about the
colour
> of the 38 class locomotive. His opinion should be treated as irrelevent,
he
> is a bitter and twisted bully.  The process is largely irrelevent in this
> case, as we are talking about Grey. The print clearly shows carriages in
> russet and red, the red is a good representation. Thus we have more
> reference points compared to black and white prints.
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> > For those who wish to check it out, the book is "The Australian Book
> > of Trains", by J H & W D Martin, published by Angus & Robertson in
> > 1947 and the colour plate, described as - The "Newcastle Flyer" on
> > Hawkesbury Bridge, natural colour photo by Don Martin) is facing page
> > 226.  The book is thought to be the first "real" publication on
> > Australian railways.
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> > This particular photograph shows 3801 to be quite a dark gray, whilst
> > other black and white photos suggest that the gray is considerably
> > lighter.
> >
> > Hunslet
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> It depends on which black and white prints you look at. It's a problem
with
> black and white prints, to work out how dark or light the grey is. This is
> why this colour print is more useful. It clearly shows the grey to be
> reasonably dark, could be a result of in service dirt. However  3801 is
> slightly lighter than the carriage red, and lighter than the dirty
carriage
> roofs, indicating a reasonably clean locomotive and tender. It's much
darker
> than cement grey of the bridge abutments. With the absence of alternative
> evidence, this is the best reference I have to the colour used. It's more
> useful than Mark Newton's nothing.
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> Terry Flynn
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