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"Robert Lee" <robsl@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> At least three, I think, but I wouldn't claim to be an expert. The three I
> know about are the 'apple green', as used on 3801 from the time of its
> return to green livery in 1963 or thereabouts; the olive green, which so
far
> as I know was unique to 3830 and dates from around the same time; and the
> standard green in which the second series of 25 built at Eveleigh and
> Cardiff entered traffic.
>
> The five Cyde locos were also repainted from grey into this green in the
mid
> to late 1940s. This green APPEARS from photos (not a very reliable
indicator
> it must be admitted!) to be the same or very similar to that used on
> passenger locos outshopped from around 1936 to 1940. Almost all the
rebuilt
> 35s, a fair sprinkiling of 36s and 32s, and the odd 34 and 12 were painted
> in this green. I imagine there was plenty of this paint left over when the
> green livery was suddenly abandoned as the war got serious, but that's
only
> speculation.

Yes it is.

>
> If it's accurate speculation, then the 38s in the late 40s would have been
> painted the same green as the pre-war passenger locos, many of which of
> course were also still green (but faded and weathered) at that time. As I
> said, though, I'm anything but an expert in these matters.
>

The paint sample obtained from a railways model painted in the 1936 colour
was darker than the 38 green.

> It's interesting that the Dulux paint specification dates from 1948, by
> which time most of the second series of 25 were already in service. I
don't
> think these 38s were ever repainted in green, so carried their original
> paint jobs until repainted in black just after Harold Young retired in
1951.
> That means the last few 38s MAY have had the same paint as the 40s, but
the
> earlier ones MAY have been in a different (darker I think) green. Then
> again, the 1948 specification may have matched closely or exactly what was
> being used until then. But who knows at this distance???
>

The colour of the 40 class green paint sample was a shade or 2 lighter than
the paint sample from 3830. This could simply be poor colour matching. Those
who had painted their models with craftsman paints have the correct colours,
within a shade or too.

>
> "Graham Morphett" <graham@morphett.com> wrote in message
> news:pOowd.26$g5.844@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > There were at least 2 greens - a deep green sort of like 3830, and the
> apple
> > green seen on 3801
> > Graham
> >
> > "Spinner Brett Fitzpatrick" <spinner@mpx.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:499b8921.0412152257.6cf4ad6d@posting.google.com...
> > > "According to a 'bit of reasearch' the green used on the 38s 40, 41etc
> > > was Dulux Verdant Green Paint Number
> > > 388-04838. I believe this paint can still be made as the specification
> > > is
> > > still current.
> > >
> > > Please note that this statement, on the surface, appears to tell us
> > > that Larch Green = Verdant Green.  Perhaps the colour specifications
> > > were sent to Montreal and the UK."
> > >
> > > I've been asked, off group, what my research is to support what I said
> > > above.
> > >
> > > The source of the above information was a person called Doug
> > > Patterson, who used to work at Chullora Workshops, latterly the
> > > electrical section.  He used to work in the painting section when 38s
> > > were being done.  His statement on this was taken circa 1972.
> > >
> > > The 40 Class d/e's were imported and landed in primer, the paint was
> > > applied at Redfern (Eveleigh), the same paint as used on the 38's.
> > >
> > > The 41 Class d/e's were imported and landed fully painted so may have
> > > been different for the first period of their lives.
> > >
> > > The Dulux paint colour number, 338-4838, was derived from the year
> > > (1948) and application (38 Class), a point confirmed by Dulux.  338
> > > indicated the paint type and manufacturer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Brett
> >
> >
>
>
-- 
Terry Flynn


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