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Beowulf wrote:

> salv�
> Greg Rudd <grudd@usyd.edu.au> skrev i
> diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:cpb4pi$im8$1@spacebar.ucc.usyd.edu.au...
>> Beowulf wrote:
>>
>> > salv�
>> >     Dear all,
>> > Seeing as how this isn't quite to do with paints any longer ...... A
> quick
>> > word on plate frames, according to J.C.Gibson who I mentioned
>> > previously plate frames tended to crack about the horns when the loco
>> > was being lifted for maintainance due mainly it seems to not enough
>> > metal being
> used
>> > over the horn gaps to reinforce them in such a situation, they also
>> > cracked it seems when the springs lost their springiness and the axle
>> > boxes smacked into the frame at high velocities bending the frame and
>> > eventually cracking it at this point.(Horn gaps), he doesnt mention bar
>> > frames except in relationship to Deans pony trucks.(GWR) and as I'm not
> an
>> > engineer.... anyway I thought this might be of interest as JC Gibson
>> > before he became a Cof E Vicar was employed by the GWR as a fitter in
>> > their erecting and repair shops so he ought to know :) I assume
> Australian
>> > practice cant have been too dissimilar to UK practice? or am I
>> > wrong...I await the tirades with baited breath and have my garlic ready
>> > to ward
> off
>> > the nasty's :) Beowulf
>>
>> I actually enjoy your posts to be truthfull ;-)
>>
>> I would not be using the GWR necessaraly as a reference point for
> locomotive
>> innovation as in a lot of area's they really trailed behind in their
>> designs.  But don't tell Terry Flynn that.
> 
> Dear Gregg,
>     both the authors I cited considered that in the beginning up to  Dean
> atleast, that the GWR was at the forefront, but later complacency set in,
> these guys both  had an intimate knowledge of the works and practices and
> indeed also some of the draughtsmen were friends, so its not heresy to say
> this :) I like what Terry writes actually and I wish the arguments were
> just a little less vitriolic, they read like when I am debating with
> muslims on the relative merits of Christian v islamic theology (I was
> educated as a theologian amongst other things)and considering that this is
> after all a hobby it'd be nice if we could just be nicer to each other....
> insult each other more politely....(eg::you Cad sir!:::::etc)
> 

It is because Terry is so dogmatic is the problem. And he is a good stir to
boot.  As for Terry, in the past, he has accused Mark of just being a broom
pusher with no qualifications and the like when the reality is that Mark
was seriously involved in one of the most extensive steam locomotive
restoration projects ever seen in Australia that being 3830.  For Terry's
info I have actually seen Mark installing new boiler stays and tubes in
3830's boiler.  

Sorry Terry I had to drop your cover mate.


> but Mark 
> seems to have it in for Mr Flynn, on the other hand I knew a guy called
> Terry Flynn when I
> was working at  Watford Jct prior to training (oooh!) as a train guard on
> BR.Couldnt be the same fellah!
> Beowulf

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