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Terry Flynn wrote:

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> "Greg Rudd" <grudd@usyd.edu.au> wrote in message
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>> Mark Newton wrote:
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>> > Terry Flynn wrote:
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>> >  > Will wind up be an option for the Eureka NSW AD 60 class
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>> > No, but winding you up will ALWAYS be an option, crackpot
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>> I thought it was mandatory ;-)
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>> Whats the next thing he will be telling us.  That the classic american
>> balwin 4-4-0 never ran in NSW.
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> What a Baldwin 4-4-0 has to do with this thread I don't know.
What I was making the comment you 
> I do know 
> that the Baldwin 4-4-0 locomotives were a poor second compared to English
> 4-4-0
> designs which the NSWGR had.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. In certain areas the quality of the
workmanship and the materials used in construction of the British engines
in particular the 12 class were far superior to the Baldwins. As performers
they did do well in their early days with quite a few speed and load
records to their credit and had some good design features that suited New
South Wales conditions down to the ground, such as long smoke boxes and
large grate areas. Another thing was that the Balwins were far lighter on
the track than what the British engines were.  I think that given the
choice of working one of the Balwins or the 12 class in their original form
I think you would want to work in the far more comfortable cab of the
Baldwin.  What would have been the most spectaular of all the Baldwins to
see in operation would have been the big J's which would have pushed the
NSWGR loading gauge to its sheer limits. But as to the quality of the
finished product Beyer-Peocock built a far better loco than what Baldwin
did at the time.  But then you have to understand that the Balwin's that
were built to last for a certain period of time and no longer.  While the
Brits built their export locos to give the longest possible life.
  

> I expect if we compare the Eureka NSW AD60  
> H0 model (when it arrives) to current US H0 steam models, the AD60 will be
> considerably better, with or
> without a clockwork option.
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