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Article #1023Re: Can you siphon a gas?
From: Phred
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:04
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:04
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In article <4c187448$0$17177$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, "Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote: >You can't siphon a gas. Nonsense. You need to think more broadly. >The gas in the upper reservoir would simply disperse into the atmosphere. >You could enclose the gas at each end in some flexible membrane, but this >would cause the pressures at each end to equalise and there would be no >force to push the gas through the "siphon". > >BTW, siphons work because atmospheric pressure pushes the liquid through the Nonsense. Syphons work by gravity, not atmospheric pressure. >siphon. That is why they don't work in a vacuum. If the atmospheric pressure >is low enough at the receiving end, siphons can pump water up hill (ie >against the force of gravity). Sounds like a typical suction pump to me. >"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message >news:hscssf$3ii$1@speranza.aioe.org... >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:47:54 +0000, Don H wrote: >> >>> It seems the Oxford dictionary (and others?) has an incorrect definition >>> of "siphon"; attributing the agent involved as atmospheric pressure, not >>> gravity. >>> But the key aspect of a siphon is surely that it is a tube with one leg >>> longer than the other - but makes a "fluid' (liquid; gas) go upwards, >>> before descending. >>> Hence, the fluid "defies" gravity, before succumbing to it. How? >>> Presumably, because of internal cohesion of the fluid concerned - the >>> molecules drag each other along (viscosity?); otherwise, the whole >>> system just wouldn't work. >>> The agent involved may well be gravity - but can you siphon a gas? >> >> Yes. Think of pools of gas, e.g. cold air. The critical part of the >> gravity siphon explanation is that both legs/tubes of te siphon are >> filled with the gas that you are siphonig. Cheers, Phred. -- ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
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