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Article #3854Re: Symbiosis
From: Che Guava
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:46
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:46
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Rick and Di wrote: > digenetic trematodes, such as Fasciola hepatica (the liver fluke) pass > through several hosts, and undergo both asexual and sexual reproductive > phases. The utilise a snail as an intermediate host where the asexual > reproduction occurs, and then migrate into the eye stalks of the snail. The > snail basically carries the developing parasites to teh tops of plants, > where they can be eaten by sheep and cattle (the definitive hosts) and the > cycle starts over. This multiple host and polymorphism is a feature of this > branch of the Platyhelminthes. > > hope this helps Yes it confirms that truth IS stranger than fiction, and whets my appetite for more bizzaro nature.... Thanks! > > Rick > > Che Guava wrote: > > > I have for some time thought that social Darwinism was based > > on a crude simplification derived from an even cruder simplification: > > > > 'survival of the fittest' > > > > It seems, as we develop a more sophisticated understanding of > > complex ecologies, that co-operation may in fact be the far more > > important > > organising principle. > > > > I was reminded of this watching Attenborough when he made a passing > > comment > > that we are only 20% us. > > > > By which he meant that the micro-organisms, bugs and bacteria with > > whom we live in symbiosis (or are hosts to their parasitism, a form of > > unconscious biological charity ;-) are the majority partner. 8^o > > > > Now some of these critters we can't live without.. gut bacteria > > for example, are essential to digestion... but I thought this was a good > > > > forum to seek some clarification on two related issues: > > > > Mitochondria.. I remember a sci-fi story that suggested these were > > alien DNA sitting in the drivers seat of our cells piloting us all > > toward > > a civilization which would ultimately develop technology advanced > > enough to return them home. ;-) > > > > If ever there was an opposite to anthropomorphism, that must be it. B^) > > > > My question is.. are these mitochondria truly 'alien' i.e., not of our > > DNA, > > but like the other 80% Attenborough alluded to, 'the other' > > > > And what basically, is their function? > > > > The other query is really a long shot.. I'm just hoping to encounter > > someone with equally eclectic interests on this one.. > > > > At at friends farm while housesitting I sampled much of their bookshelf > > of an evening, by the old pot bellied stove. > > > > One story, (author and title noted but subsequently lost), described a > > micro organism > > which I found absolutely astonishing. (It was, I understood, a work of > > non-fiction > > of the genre.. 'strange but true'). > > > > It described a bovine parasite. during it's lifecycle it is excreted > > into the soil, > > from there it passes into ants. > > Now at some point in its lifecycle it migrates to the ants central > > nervous > > system, and causes it to climb to the very top of grass stalks! 8^o > > > > >From there it has the best chance of being munched by grazing cows!!! > > > > Now I understand the principles of natural selection. > > I subscribe to the theory of evoluution.. > > > > but bugger me dead.. modifies ant nervous system in such a way as to > > override ant control, causing behavioral change which amounts to > > turning it > > into a vehicle for takeoff??? > > > > Q1 anyone else aware of this life cycle > > > > Q2 Anyone know the name / author of the book? > > > > Q3 Anyone got similar stories. (non-fiction preferred ;-) > > > > Thanks > > > > Che > > ----- > > The woods are lovely, dark and deep, > > But I have promises to keep, > > And miles to go before I sleep, > > And miles to go before I sleep. > > > > -Robert Frost "Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening"
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd648,5c7add251a8f8b35 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd648,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-21 00:20:34 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!newsfeeds.bigpond.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B307EF9.202DEFC1@my-deja.com> From: Che Guava <che_guava@my-deja.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.science Subject: Re: Symbiosis References: <3B2DEEDA.EDBC668F@my-deja.com> <3B2F2F1F.1CBB14BF@bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 110 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:46:17 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.54.44.125 X-Trace: newsfeeds.bigpond.com 993107148 203.54.44.125 (Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:05:48 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:05:48 EST Organization: Telstra BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.com)