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danny@cs.su.oz.au (Danny) writes:

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>In article <dformosa.847942766@lancelot.st.nepean.uws.edu.au>,
>>I fave to dissagry with you there,  fundermentl means 'the simplest' that
>>wich can't be split.  communites are  made up of indervigules.  You can have
>>an indvagule without a communite (a hermit) but you can't have a community
>>without indvigulas.

>In which case individuals are not fundamental either.  "Individuals
>are made up cells.  You can have a cell without an individual (amoeba)
>but you can't have an individual without cells."

However if you remove cells from my body thay will quickly die (execpt 
spurm cells wich are potantail indviguals).  But if I decide to live
outside a comminaty I can.

>It always amazes me how reductionist biologists (who want to reduce
>all of ecology, embryology, and evolution to molecular genetics)

Without at least a ruff knolige of molecular genetics all these fealds 
meaning less.

> get
>really upset if you use exactly the same arguments they use to argue
>for the reduction of *all* of biology to physics.

You can but then the math gets to hard.

>  The same goes for
>proponents of methodological individualism in the social sciences -- 
>just watch them scream blue murder if you start reducing individuals!

(Pulls out large chainsaw) Lets start reducting thouse individuals.

>States and communities, like them or not, are real entities 

Thay are entites yes, thay are most likely an orginisum as well but more
like how an ant-hill or a bees nest is an orginisum.  States and commuites
are abstract entites,  no-one can debate where my body stops and yours
begins (well I'm not going to get that personal with you yet) but where
staes and commintes begin and end is the subject of constent debait.

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