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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message 
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> "DonH" <donlhumphries@bigpond.com> wrote in message 
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>> "Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message 
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>>>> "Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message 
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>>>>>> Unless starved, humans breed without bounds. The over allocation of 
>>>>>> water
>>>>>> carried out by the NSW government has been for growing export crops
>>>>>> rather than food security.
>>>>>
>>>>> Food security!
>>>>>
>>>>> ROFL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Australia already exports 2/3rds of its food production. Given we grow 
>>>>> enough food for about 60m people, and we only have 21m people, food 
>>>>> security is not an issue for Australia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> # Odd.  I heard recently that Australia now imports a lot of its food; 
>>>> possibly due to arable land on the urban fringe being covered by new 
>>>> domestic dwellings.
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>>> You heard crap.
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>>> We import very little food, and export huge quantities of it. In fact 
>>> with 21 million people we are the 5th largest food exporter in the 
>>> world, and export more food per capita than any other nation on earth.
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>>> We rank 1st in surplus food production per capita of the 192 countries 
>>> in the UN.
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>>> We are the *last* country on earth to need to worry about food security.
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>> #  Perhaps it is more a case of everyone being busy in everyone else's 
>> nation - instead of concentrating on home affairs?  Thus, food may be 
>> imported because it is cheaper than the local product.
>>   Why do we want to import apples from NZ, or is it more that they want 
>> to sell them to us? (with their disease potential).
>>    As for irrigators in the Murray-Darling area, it may be a case of 
>> half-a-loaf is better than no bread, and if current practices are 
>> continued then there may be NO river system at all, to supply water to 
>> anyone.
>>    Also, reducing water allocation to irrigators and applying it to "the 
>> environment", may seem a "waste" of water (who cares about red gums, 
>> Murray cod, etc?), but we are likely more dependent on our habitat than 
>> we realise, and Nature has a way of imposing a hard lesson...  Which is 
>> probably why Mildura orange growers now use drip-feed - to help rectify, 
>> or minimise, the (unforeseen) salt problem.
>>   The Human Plague goes chomp, chomp, chomp - and Nature can be left to 
>> the Tree-huggers, and other idiots.
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> Putting aside these complete irrelevancies, do you concede that Australia 
> exports 60% of its food production, and is the largest exporter of food 
> per capita in the entire world?
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> So that stuff you wrote about Australia having problems with food security 
> are complete crap, right?
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# Alright, quote me ABS (Austn Bureau of Statistics) figures, and that 
should settle the matter.
   I'm more concerned with future of the river system, as such, but, 
presumably food supply isn't an issue, as lack of output from Murray-Darling 
can be compensated for elsewhere in Australia; or, by reducing exports.
   If the region gets lots of rain consistently henceforth, then why need 
for irrigation at all?
   But the trouble is, we can't be sure; except that weather may become (1) 
erratic, and (2) extreme - due to air pollution?
   One thing's sure: if there's no river, there can be no irrigation.
   Ban rice/cotton from the M-D area - move them north!