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Article #974Re: Murray-Darling Basin
From: DonH
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:15
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:15
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> You are so full of shit.
>>>
>>> You keep saying that the world is heading for disaster. Its not.
>>> Whenever you try and justify this belief, you do so by writing things
>>> that are patently false. We are not committing ecological suicide; we
>>> (Australia) produce massively more food than we require, the world is
>>> not going to end tomorrow.
>>>
>>> In fact, the world is richer now in every way than it was 20, 50, 100 or
>>> 1,000 years ago, and there is absolutely no reason to believe that the
>>> world will not continue to improve.
>>>
>>> Have you been diagnosed with clinical depression?
>>
>> # Yes, I'm an extremist, a Prophet of Doom, and will even put a date on
>> it : decimation of Homo Sap by 2050 AD, and extinction by 2099.
>
> Well, you are as wrong as all other religious nutters who predict the
> world will end soon.
>
>
>> Non-human species are being exterminated at a rate 1,000 times that
>> due to Nature (Al Gore); probably mainly due to us chopping down forests
>> and jungles.
>
> What is the rate of new species creation?
>
> Why is the purported rate of extinction a problem?
>
> Can you name any species that has become extinct in the last 10 years?
>
> Why do you quote Al Gore who is a politician on scientific matters?
>
>
>> The main problem is inability of the human species to view itself with
>> any real objectivity - if we could, then we'd see that we humans are in
>> plague proportions.
>
> No we are not.
>
> The total biomass of all people on the planet is less than the biomass of
> the world's krill.
>
> Do you think krill are in plague proprtions?
>
>> Our rapacity too, is a factor, and eg the Victorian State elections
>> are run at a frenetic pace, to see which Action Man can do, or promise,
>> the most.- in Growth, Development, Progress, etc.
>> Failure to fully recycle our production, so waste=0, is another
>> aspect, and we'll eventually "drown" in our own pollution. Nuclear waste
>> dumps; and geosequestration?
>
>
> Again, completely unsupported crap.
>
>
>> We talk of "economy", but there is nothing frugal about mineral
>> extraction - the faster the better, is the motto; so that soon we have
>> only a-hole-in-the-ground. Oil reserves have already peaked, and it is
>> downhill henceforth. Which is why off-shore drilling is common, with
>> attendant environmental risk.
>> The human species is not immortal, either secularly or spiritually,
>> and finite planet Earth is all we have. Ruin it, and we've had our
>> innings as a species.
>> The human brain is extolled as our greatest asset, but we tend to
>> forget it is coupled with primitive instincts, and this combination is
>> likely to prove fatal - nuclear war, or even conventional war, is always
>> in the offing.
>> An animal with an over-specialised feature can prove an adaptive
>> failure, and maybe we are just such animal.
>> The dinosaurs lasted millions of years, but their brain was too small
>> to think of conquering Nature.
>> Homo Sapiens has only existed, as such, for about one million years -
>> a meteoric rise and fall; a nanosecond of cosmic time. So, let's not
>> laugh at the dinosaurs, that they are extinct.
>> Our well-fed Leaders will meet, yet again, for a mutual back-slapping
>> talk-fest, but it is probably too little, too late.
>> Of course, time might prove my Doomsday prediction wrong. Let me know,
>> in due course; if we are both still here.
>> If it moves, shoot it; if it doesn't, chop it down!
>
> You are a fucking sad case.
>
> You say the world will end in 80 years, but provide no mechanism or reason
> at all. At least most other religious nutters provide some semblance of a
> reason.
>
> You are just full of shit, ignorant of basic science, and a depressing old
> nutter with nothing to say.
>
> If this is how you feel about the future, my advice is see a doctor.
>
>
# Doomsayers tend to be refuted by events, or lack thereof.
I assume Al Gore obtained his data from scientists, or he wouldn't have
stuck his neck out as he did.
When you get someone as astute as Dick Smith taking up the human
population issue, then there may be a case.
I became a Prophet of Doom partly to offset the Deniers and Skeptics who
think there's No Problemo. These starry-eyed Optimists don't see anything
wrong with the exponential growth of human population since 1800 AD, nor in
not recycling air pollution, instead of discharging it, like raw sewage,
into the atmosphere.
How's the Amazon Jungle going - going, going, gone?
Dams-on-the-Mekong is next on the agenda.
"Ain't Progress fine?" said the Lemmings, as they became airborne.
Human inertia will probably carry us over the cliff - if it is already too
little, too late.
Most biological species which have ever existed are extinct, so Homo
Sapiens will probably join the vast majority. It is just a matter of
sooner - or later.
On the tombstone, we may write: "All his own work". But then, who'd be
around to write it?
Nature probably enjoys a grim joke, and the Vain Ape is it.
The next few decades will be crucial....
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