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Geoff Bird <gjbird@optushome.com.au> wrote in message news:3ae62f96.766160@news...
> On 24 Apr, Carman <cael77@surfbest.net> wrote:
> >
> >  Please cite the names of these "original activists", the
> >names of the organizations you call "politically correct
> >pressure groups", and your evidence indicating these
> >people attended Catholic schools.
> >
>
> For example, there is a bloke called John Marsden, who
> I met a few years ago when I sued the NSW Council for
> Civil Liberties.  I had sought a Supreme Court injunction
> to ban the Council for Civil Liberties from promoting
> prisoners rights, on the basis that prisoners are in prison
> for violating the civil liberties of their fellow citizens.

  Carman wrote:
  This is ONE person, and ONE organization. From this you
have drawn general conclusions? I don't believe it.

>
> John Marsden was the president of the Council for Civil
> Liberties.  According to the "Sydney Morning Herald",
> he was also a gay rights activist.  Before becoming a
> lawyer, Mr. Marsden trained as a Catholic priest, along
> with former NSW Premier John Fahey, who became a
> partner in Marsden's law firm.
>
> John Fahey liked to portray himself as a good Catholic
> and a family man.  Despite this, he had this friend and
> business partner who was a gay rights activist.  How
> could such a state of affairs exist unless the Catholic
> Church secretly supported gay rights?

  Carman wrote:
  Have you any idea how fantastic this trash is? From
the professional relationship of two lawyers you purport
to conclude there is a Catholic conspiracy to secretly
support gay rights?

  No. I don't believe it. You're writing garbage that you
KNOW is garbage. No one who can write an English
sentence this clearly could possibly believe this filth.

  I've met people who believe absolutely in one or
another of the various Great International Conspiracies.
Whether they fixate on Catholics, Jews, Mormons,
Masons, Illuminati, or the National Football League,
there people all have one thing in common: they are
obviously insane.

>
> Incidentally, my court case was based on another case
> in which some rugby players obtained an injunction
> against the New Zealand Rugby Football Union banning
> their proposed tour of South Africa, which the players
> claimed violated the objectives of the NZRFU. Like the
> "Mabo" case, my case was decided in accordance with
> "judicial activism" and not in accordance with the
> established law.

  Carman wrote:
  Tough. If you don't like the way your country is run then
change it if you can. If you can't change it, it's probably
because the number of people who like it the way it is,
(or don't care one way or the other), exceeds the number
of people who want it changed.

> For the answers to your other questions, please read
>
>      http://www.students.org.au/catholic
>
> Thank you for not resorting to abusive or obscene
> language;

  Carman wrote:
  What you have written here is both abusive and obscene.

> as you no doubt know, schoolkids read these articles.

  Carman wrote:
  I most devoutly hope that any such "school kids" have
the brains not to take your word for any of this. You're
either a Troll, a Cop, or a Genuine Flake. My bet remains
on Cop. I think you're running a "hate-crime" sting.

  So, Mr Policeman Sir? Has any of this twaddle resulted
in arrests and charges for the fools who take the stinking
bait? It will probably serve as the proximate cause for
more "hate-crime" legislation from your government. A
few show-trials of various deluded morons may be some
help in drumming up support for more legislation among
the proles.

  This kind of entrapment is reprehensible. Quite typical
of the developed Socialist State.