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Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3ae78fd1@news.iprimus.com.au...
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> Carman <cael77@surfbest.net> wrote in message news:9c7tde$bik$1@news.chatlink.com...
> > Geoff Bird <gjbird@optushome.com.au> wrote
> >> Carman <cael77@surfbest.net> wrote
>
> >>> Please cite the names of these "original activists",
> >>> the names of the organizations you call "politically
> >>> correct pressure groups", and your evidence
> >>> indicating these people attended Catholic schools.
>
> >> For example, there is a bloke called John Marsden, who
> >> I met a few years ago when I sued the NSW Council for
> >> Civil Liberties.  I had sought a Supreme Court injunction
> >> to ban the Council for Civil Liberties from promoting
> >> prisoners rights, on the basis that prisoners are in prison
> >> for violating the civil liberties of their fellow citizens.
>
> > This is ONE person, and ONE organization. From this
> > you have drawn general conclusions? I don't believe it.
>
> Better believe it, there are loons that loony.

  Carman wrote:
  No. I don't believe it. I think this loon is no loon at all
but rather a policeman baiting loons and adding to the
myth of the "hate ridden internet".

>
> >> John Marsden was the president of the Council for Civil
> >> Liberties.  According to the "Sydney Morning Herald",
> >> he was also a gay rights activist.  Before becoming a
> >> lawyer, Mr. Marsden trained as a Catholic priest, along
> >> with former NSW Premier John Fahey, who became a
> >> partner in Marsden's law firm.
>
> >> John Fahey liked to portray himself as a good Catholic
> >> and a family man.  Despite this, he had this friend and
> >> business partner who was a gay rights activist.  How
> >> could such a state of affairs exist unless the Catholic
> >> Church secretly supported gay rights?
>

> > Carman wrote:
> > Have you any idea how fantastic this trash is?
>
> Obviously not or he wouldnt have been
> stupid enough to spew it in the first place.

  Carman wrote:
  This might be the case if the garbage was meant sincerely.
I doubt the poster is quite the "loon" one might hope.

>
> Doesnt even have the remotest grasp of
> the fact that anyone with a clue wont buy it.

  Carman wrote:
  My assumption is that this individual isn't hoping to
sell this to anyone with a clue. I think he's trolling
for clueless bigots. He will probably get quite a response
for his efforts. Bigots are notoriously clueless.

> > Carman wrote:
> > From the professional relationship of two lawyers
> > you purport to conclude there is a Catholic
> > conspiracy to secretly support gay rights?
>
> > No. I don't believe it. You're writing garbage that you
> > KNOW is garbage. No one who can write an English
> > sentence this clearly could possibly believe this filth.
>
> Gets sillier by the minute. There are plenty of examples of quite
> literate presentation of the silliest conspiracy theory garbage.

  Carman wrote:
  Please cite examples of this "literate presentation" made
by people who actually believe the garbage they spout.

  I will admit that this particular "bird" spins a pretty sick
tale, but he lacks that signal stench of psychosis that marks
the work of the truly twisted.

> > Carman wrote:
> > I've met people who believe absolutely in one or another
> > of the various Great International Conspiracies. Whether
> > they fixate on Catholics, Jews, Mormons, Masons, Illuminati,
> > or the National Football League, there people all have
> > one thing in common: they are obviously insane.
>
> Depends entirely on how you define insanity.

  Carman wrote:
  It does? Well then, how do you define it?

>
> Its no more insane than to believe there is some god
> purportedly watching every sparrow fall and deliberately
> specifying every activity.

  Carman wrote:
  Does someone believe that? Who?

>
> >> For the answers to your other questions, please read
>
> >>      http://www.students.org.au/catholic
>
> >> Thank you for not resorting to abusive or obscene language;
>
> > Carman wrote:
> > What you have written here is both abusive and obscene.
>
> It is indeed. And a flagrant defamation.
>
> >> as you no doubt know, schoolkids read these articles.
> >
> > Carman wrote:
> > I most devoutly hope that any such "school kids" have
> > the brains not to take your word for any of this. You're
> > either a Troll, a Cop, or a Genuine Flake. My bet remains
> > on Cop. I think you're running a "hate-crime" sting.
>
> Have fun explaining the legal action Horry cited.
>
> Cops dont do that sort of thing.

  Carman wrote:
  They do in Canada, where I used to live. Please try a Google
Search on The Heritige Front in Canada.This pseudo-neo-nazi
"skinhead" group was started by the Canadian Security
Intelligence Service, Canada's secret police.

  The practice is called "Entrapment". It's a normal part of every
Socialist and near Socialist State of which I've ever seen or heard.
Call it "normal" for a particular kind of bureaucratic mindset to wish
to ferret out and punish people with divergent opinions.
.

> And you've got the same problem with conspiracy theorys yourself.

  Carman wrote:
  You think it doesn't happen? I've watched the Socialists in Canada
become ever more concerned with people's opinions. The hate-crime
legislation is designed to enforce uniformity of expression, and is
entirely antithetical to the Freedom of Speech.

>
> Snap.

> > Carman wrote:
> > So, Mr Policeman Sir? Has any of this twaddle resulted in arrests
> > and charges for the fools who take the stinking bait? It will
> > probably serve as the proximate cause for more "hate-crime"
> > legislation from your government. A few show-trials of various
> > deluded morons may be some help in drumming up support for
> > more legislation among the proles.
>
> > Carman wrote:
> > This kind of entrapment is reprehensible.
>
> Just your pathetic little fantasy.

  Carman wrote:
  Understandably, you wish it were so. "If wishes were horses..."!


> > Carman wrote:
> > Quite typical of the developed Socialist State.
>
> Wota wanka.
>

  Carman wrote:
  Another believer in the mantra "It can't happen here"?