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Carman <cael77@surfbest.net> wrote in message news:9calas$tom$1@news.chatlink.com...
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Carman <cael77@surfbest.net> wrote
>>> Geoff Bird <gjbird@optushome.com.au> wrote
>>>> Carman <cael77@surfbest.net> wrote

>>>>> Please cite the names of these "original activists",
>>>>> the names of the organizations you call "politically
>>>>> correct pressure groups", and your evidence
>>>>> indicating these people attended Catholic schools.

>>>> For example, there is a bloke called John Marsden, who
>>>> I met a few years ago when I sued the NSW Council for
>>>> Civil Liberties.  I had sought a Supreme Court injunction
>>>> to ban the Council for Civil Liberties from promoting
>>>> prisoners rights, on the basis that prisoners are in prison
>>>> for violating the civil liberties of their fellow citizens.

>>> This is ONE person, and ONE organization. From this
>>> you have drawn general conclusions? I don't believe it.

>> Better believe it, there are loons that loony.

And loons a hell of a lot more loony than that too.
Who can still manage to right intelligibly too.

> No. I don't believe it.

Your problem. You're always free to
be into any conspiracy theory you like.

> I think this loon is no loon at all but rather a policeman baiting
> loons and adding to the myth of the "hate ridden internet".

Crap, cops dont have that sort of legal
challenge as part of their false persona.

Tony Grigor-Scott is FAR more loony than
The Bird. All the same stupid claims that one
group is behind it all, in Tony's case is the jews.

Tony actually believes that southern california is about to
snap off from north america and sink beneath the waves,
quite literally. Warns those living there to leave before it happens.

Doesnt believe that smallpox has been eliminated from society.

>>>> John Marsden was the president of the Council for Civil
>>>> Liberties.  According to the "Sydney Morning Herald",
>>>> he was also a gay rights activist.  Before becoming a
>>>> lawyer, Mr. Marsden trained as a Catholic priest, along
>>>> with former NSW Premier John Fahey, who became a
>>>> partner in Marsden's law firm.

>>>> John Fahey liked to portray himself as a good Catholic
>>>> and a family man.  Despite this, he had this friend and
>>>> business partner who was a gay rights activist.  How
>>>> could such a state of affairs exist unless the Catholic
>>>> Church secretly supported gay rights?

>>> Have you any idea how fantastic this trash is?

>> Obviously not or he wouldnt have been
>> stupid enough to spew it in the first place.

> This might be the case if the garbage was meant sincerely.
> I doubt the poster is quite the "loon" one might hope.

Corse he is, he's been around for a long time, and there
is the tiny matter of the civil action that Horry cited.

Grade 1, rolled gold, raving loon.

>> Doesnt even have the remotest grasp of
>> the fact that anyone with a clue wont buy it.

> My assumption is that this individual isn't
> hoping to sell this to anyone with a clue.

Thats not an assumption, its a conspiracy
theory. As silly as his conspiracy theory.

And there is no evidence that you are a cop trolling either.

> I think he's trolling for clueless bigots.

You're wrong, he's a clueless bigot/rabid loon.

> He will probably get quite a response for his efforts.

Yes, he always does. Most clueless bigots/rabid loons do, even
if its only everyone pissing on his silly stuff from a great height.

> Bigots are notoriously clueless.

So are rabid loons.

>>> From the professional relationship of two lawyers
>>> you purport to conclude there is a Catholic
>>> conspiracy to secretly support gay rights?

>>> No. I don't believe it. You're writing garbage that you
>>> KNOW is garbage. No one who can write an English
>>> sentence this clearly could possibly believe this filth.

>> Gets sillier by the minute. There are plenty of examples of quite
>> literate presentation of the silliest conspiracy theory garbage.

> Please cite examples of this "literate presentation" made
> by people who actually believe the garbage they spout.

Tony Grigor-Scott, Adolf Hitler, whoever produced that illuminatii
bullshit, the absolute vast bulk of the rabid loons that have produced
virtually all the world's religions and cults etc etc etc.

> I will admit that this particular "bird" spins a pretty
> sick tale, but he lacks that signal stench of psychosis
> that marks the work of the truly twisted.

Yes, but you can make the same claim about Churchill. You
aint gunna get much better "literate presentation" than that.

>>> I've met people who believe absolutely in one or another
>>> of the various Great International Conspiracies. Whether
>>> they fixate on Catholics, Jews, Mormons, Masons, Illuminati,
>>> or the National Football League, there people all have
>>> one thing in common: they are obviously insane.

>> Depends entirely on how you define insanity.

> It does?

Corse it does.

> Well then, how do you define it?

You made the claim, you get to do the defining.

You're gunna have a problem with those who claim to have
seen angels, had some god talk to them directly etc tho.

>> Its no more insane than to believe there is
>> some god purportedly watching every sparrow
>> fall and deliberately specifying every activity.

> Does someone believe that?

Quite a few do.

> Who?

The worst of those that buy that bullshit about some all knowing god etc.

And that very fundamental 'inshalla' bullshit isnt that
different, tho primarily restricted to just humans.

>>>> For the answers to your other questions, please read

>>>>      http://www.students.org.au/catholic

>>>> Thank you for not resorting to abusive or obscene language;

>>> What you have written here is both abusive and obscene.

>> It is indeed. And a flagrant defamation.

>>>> as you no doubt know, schoolkids read these articles.

>>> I most devoutly hope that any such "school kids" have
>>> the brains not to take your word for any of this. You're
>>> either a Troll, a Cop, or a Genuine Flake. My bet remains
>>> on Cop. I think you're running a "hate-crime" sting.

>> Have fun explaining the legal action Horry cited.

>> Cops dont do that sort of thing.

> They do in Canada, where I used to live.

Not with that sort of legal action Horry cited they dont.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/federal_ct/unrep7063.html

> Please try a Google Search on The Heritige Front in Canada.

No thanks, I know what they got up to. They DIDNT
deliberately engage in that sort of civil suit that Horry
cited to make them appear to be rolled gold rabid loons.

> This pseudo-neo-nazi "skinhead" group was started by the
> Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Canada's secret police.

No news.

> The practice is called "Entrapment". It's a normal part of every
> Socialist and near Socialist State of which I've ever seen or heard.

Bullshit entrapment at that level is. Its never happened in this country.

> Call it "normal" for a particular kind of bureaucratic mindset
> to wish to ferret out and punish people with divergent opinions.

Gets sillier by the minute. Some states even have
a constitutional right to free speach on that stuff.

>> And you've got the same problem with conspiracy theorys yourself.

> You think it doesn't happen?

Corse it does. That doesnt mean that the bird
is doing it tho. THATS the conspiracy theory.

> I've watched the Socialists in Canada become
> ever more concerned with people's opinions.

Yes, and they've been stupid enough to try to stop holocaust denyers too.

Plenty of other countrys have got more sense.

> The hate-crime legislation is designed to enforce uniformity of
> expression, and is entirely antithetical to the Freedom of Speech.

Doesnt meant that the bird is a cop tho. THATS the conspiracy theory.

You're as bad a him on that.

>> Snap.

>>> So, Mr Policeman Sir? Has any of this twaddle resulted
>>> in arrests and charges for the fools who take the stinking
>>> bait? It will probably serve as the proximate cause for more
>>> "hate-crime" legislation from your government. A few show-trials
>>> of various deluded morons may be some help in drumming
>>> up support for more legislation among the proles.

>>> This kind of entrapment is reprehensible.

>> Just your pathetic little fantasy.

>   Understandably, you wish it were so.

I know its just your fantasy. Cops dont engage in that sort of civil
action Horry cited to make themselves appear to be rolled gold loons.

> "If wishes were horses..."!

Hari Krishna, Hari Hari Hari.

>>> Quite typical of the developed Socialist State.

>> Wota wanka.

>   Another believer in the mantra "It can't happen here"?

Or someone with enough of a clue to realise that cops
dont engage in that sort of civil action Horry cited to
make themselves appear to be rolled gold loons.

In spades with Tony and his very public runnin with
a jewish journalist for the Sydney Morning Herald.

Like it or lump it, there are plenty that loony.