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Arthur and Debbie Alchin <ardeb@terrigal.net.au> wrote in article
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> Hello Gentleman:

No evidence of any of those here |-)

> I hope i am not intruding on precious ground.

Oi, I'll have you know its SACRED ground on this issue. And dont you forget it. 

> I have read your debate and believe me it is presented in the true Aussie fashion.

Just as well, most of us dont claim to be anything else. 
None of this cultural cringing thank you very much. 

> May i pose a suggestion to you all: 

No way, bugger off |-)

>the Australian government has, and will in the future mislead 
> the public on any platform it wishes: it will lie and present 
> fabricated stories to the public for it's own gain.

Welcome to the real world. 

> What you are all saying is what you have been led to believe by the
> government for it has intentionally set out to confuse the public therefore 
> lowering  the public's defence if it wishes to retaliate RE: the lies.

Nope, plenty of us can see thru the lies. Not just from 
the government  either, in spades with the abo industry. 

> Australia needs political reform: 

Nope, we are one of a tiny handful of countrys that can claim to have had
a very decent democracy for over 100 years or more, thru some extremely
stringent tests like a couple of world wars, lots of smaller wars, a great
depression, etc etc etc. It WORKS, and  HELL of a lot better than any  other 
alternative thats ever been tried. Plenty of those were lucky to last a decade. 

> we need reality (not academic) based leaders 

No thanks, not into 'leaders', they are always a complete set of ratbags
who dont do much good. Its up to US to decide on the basics of how we
want things done. And we do that every effectively indeed too. 

Its taken quite a few centurys to get to this situation. It WORKS. 

> who will accept accountability for their actions 

Thats what the current ones do. If we get sufficiently pissed off about their
actions, we pull the chain on the current crew very unceremoniously indeed. 

> and who are there to represent the "Aussies best interests". 

Easy to say, a HELL of a lot harder to decide just what those are tho. 

> It seems that they are all there at present for their 
> own ego's, monetary gains and notoriety.

Welcome to the real world. 

> If my opinion is worth anything:

Soorree, not worth a brass razoo |-)

> * moderate immigration until unemployment is religiously sorted out.

Why even 'moderate' and just what do you call moderate ?

> * Seriously review social welfare fraud: give only to geniune Aussies.

And just how the hell do you propose to decide just who are these 'genuine Aussies" ?

> * temporarily suspend overseas aid,

When would you restart it ?

> * assess how much "Australian Business is Australian Owned",
> * review all government spending (or should i say wastage)

Dont you think they do that already ?

> * abolish income tax Totally and introduce 25% GST across the board

Wont work, wont generate enough tax revenue. 

You might also care to explain why say someone on an income 
of a megabuck a year should be taxed a LOWER percentage of 
his income than say someone entirely dependant on welfare. 

> * stop the imminent foreclosure on Australia by overseas multinationals and 

Gets sillier by the minute, no multinationals can ever foreclose on Aust. 

> * present REAL facts 

These are the ones that support your political position presumably. 

> that will allow the Australian people to focus on the important 
> issues rather that argue about the issues set up as sideline decoys.  

Conspiracy theory. 

> * Leave the pension alone: after working and paying taxes all their
> lives the Goverment has to do someting for it's senior citizens.

Pity that if we plan to continue that approach with the percentage 
of those on the pension increasing every year, we will have to 
keep hiking the taxes significantly every year to pay for it. 

Basically the voters just wont buy that. 

> * Review care of the aboriginal communnity and ask them what they really want: 

We already know that, more handouts. 

> and the majority decision rules, 

No thanks, the majority decision of ALL Australians 
rules instead, not just  those demanding more handouts. 

Most groups will demand more handouts if you ask them what they want. Cant fly. 

> disallow splinter group  wants.

Pity the abos themselves are the absolute epitome of a splinter group.