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Article #782Re: The Spring
From: George Wenzel
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:56
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:56
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Just a note regarding the Spring and the relationship to Real/Time communications... Real/Time Communications operates as an Internet service provider for Austin, and soon several other Texas cities. One of our policies is to allow third parties to locate equipment at our site for the purpose of producing on-line services for the Internet. In return for this consideration, some form of compensation is required to pay for the expense of providing this service. In the case of the Spring, the compensation agreement negotiated with Real/Time is one such that Spring users pay the same rates as Real/Time users pay to use our facilities. Because the owner of the Spring didn't want to reinvent the wheel, we are allowing him to use our accounting system. Because our new user registration system was designed for Real/Time users, and since all Spring users have entries in Real/Time's accounting system, the new user sees Real/Time account creation screens. Anyone and everyone is invited to use the Real/Time facilities to produce their own on-line service. Not everyone is required to agree to the same terms as the Spring, rather terms that fit the given situation will be negotiated. Companies such as the Spring enjoy very low start-up costs, saving them many thousands of dollars in up-front costs. The Spring is not the only such service, there are at least 4 others at this time, with more being negotiated. With regard to "problems" with our DNS, and the issue of me answering my mail, I have a couple of comments. First of all I don't recall the specific problem Jim refers to, I do not believe I was told how to fix it by Jim. I won't deny that there have been errors in the past, with the hundreds of slip customers we have, our DNS is quite complex. As for my not responding to Jim's mail, it would not suprise me if this is totally true, I get hundreds of mail messages every day... at any one time I may have several megs of unread mail. All users are instructed to send email to "hosts@bga.com" where we have a team of people answering mail. I hope to someday have my mail under control, but untill I do, my assistants DO answer mail directed to "hosts". I apologise to Jim for any misunderstandings he may have had with us, I have no doubt that he is qualified to have his opinions regarding our service. I would like to invite him to come down to the office and tell me what we are doing wrong... I'll always welcome the help! Oh, one more thing. Real/Time Communications, as well as the other Internet providers were all invited to sell their services at the EFF boot at Robofest. I regret that I did not take advantage of the invitation, but I did donate two 6 month accounts for EFF to give away. One of my users printed up some materials he pulled off-line so that we would be represented at the table, and for this I thank him! I believe that if Paul represented the Spring at the EFF table, he did so knowing that it was the correct thing to do. I'm sure that Paul supports the efforts of the EFF as much as any of the other service providers do. Paul is active in the Ham Radio community, working with many other people there that are very interested in efforts such as the EFF and the Robot Group. I thank the moderator for allowing me to clear the air on this subject. George Email hosts@bga.com for responses or questions.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 126c00,e9f5328f78184872,start X-Google-Attributes: gid126c00,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-03-30 09:56:39 PST Newsgroups: austin.eff Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!cs.utexas.edu!natinst.com!news.dell.com!fisher.com!tic.com!riddle From: george@bga.com (George Wenzel) Subject: Re: The Spring Message-ID: <1994Apr1.000206.13606@tic.com> Summary: Lets clear the air. Sender: riddle@tic.com (Prentiss Riddle) X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates References: <1994Mar29.144820.20101@tic.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:56:39 GMT Approved: riddle@tic.com (Moderator, Prentiss Riddle) Lines: 64