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Re: Rusty and Eddie BBS - raided by FBI

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From: Jim Zepeda
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1993 23:16
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In article <1993Feb2.151339.17482@tic.com>, parish@cactus.org (Tom Parish) writes:
> Well - it finally happened. Rusty and Eddie's board was hit by the
> FBI.  We talked about this board at the Sysop Legal Conference on Sunday.
> R&E's board located in Boardman, Ohio, has allegedly been illegally
> distributing copyrighted software programs. Seized in the raid
> were computers, hard disk drives and telecommunications equipment,
> as well as financial and subscriber records.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 

Sounds like those of us that only logged on for the graphics may need
to watch out for the FBI visiting us. This is an interesting
development since I know that they have been very careful of access to
adult area's by minors. A few weeks before this raid they also 
appeared on a nationaly syndicated radio talk show. On this program
they discussed BBS's and the culture associated with them. These
peple were very supportive of Playboy Enterprises against Event
Horizons BBS which was clearly stealing Playboy's copyrighted
material. I suspect that if there was any copyrighted software
programs that were illegaly on the system they had been uploaded
to the board and were not yet moved to being publicly avaliable or
had all copyright notices removed by the person that uploaded the 
software.

Personaly I never got near their software since it was all IBM PC
material which my Amiga does not run. I did like their Anime 
collection.

-Jim Zepeda-

-- 
Jim Zepeda                             ; VMMAIL:  AUSTIN(RJZEPEDA)
IBM Advanced Workstations and Systems  ; email:   rjz@austin.ibm.com

I do not speak for my employer. It can speak for itself.

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I'm going to have to stick up for Joe Abernathy here.  Before the workshop on
Sunday, several Board members had the opportunity to meet for dinner with Joe
and Lance Rose as well.

I sat next to Joe, talked to him for a while, and am impressed with him.  He
currently writes for the Houston Chronicle in the "Special Projects" division.
 TI asked him how he was able to write for cyberspace and he replied it was
because he wanted to.  HThat essentially, he created his position.

Cyberspace is not the only thing he writes about.  Joe also mentioned
researching an article involving public access to a specific, important,
government database.  That he and a co-writer forced open access to this
database and are currently reviewing it 's contents.

Besides the Chronicle, he writes a column for the Village Voice and the
Columbia Review of Journalism

While we didn't talk about it much{, Joe also hinted that he came from a
background in BBS systems, became a journalist, and started writing articles
because he was interested in the issues.

The "porn ring" article was not brought up.

As far as personality goes, everyone that I spoke to agreed that Joe was a
"Real Good Guy".  Very friendly, very outgoing, *and* bought us at least two
rounds of margaritas, maybe more.

There are not that many journalists who are covering the cyber-beat.  As far
as I am concerned, Joe is a "Friend of EFF-Austin" more interested in
covering our interpretation than, say, the Secret Service's.

-- 
"When it's released later this fall, it will be transmitted via modem all
over the place. There will be pieces of Agrippa everywhere, but none of
them will be the actual object or the full story"  Kevin Begos, Agrippa 
Publisher quoted in Issue 23 of Project X.  bladex@wixer.cactus.org
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Subject: Re: Rusty and Eddie BBS - raided by FBI
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