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Article #145October CACTUS Newsletter
From: Ronald Hugh Roberts
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 03:37
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 03:37
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Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society
CACTUS Newsletter
Volume 17, Number 10 - October 2001
Contents:
* [1]October Meeting Program - To Be Announced
* [2]September Meeting Report
* [3]August Meeting Report
* [4]Membership
* [5]CACTUS Officers and Contacts
* [6]CACTUS Sponsors
* [7]Meeting Location and Map
October Meeting Program
We'll be back at home at UT ARL, our usual meeting place. They have
new carpet, so let's keep it clean. Most places are particularly
concerned about security these days, so please co-operate with the
guards should they ask to inspect your briefcase. No formal program is
currently scheduled. Thanks to Gil Kloepfer for his longtime continued
efforts to provide us a home at UT ARL.
_________________________________________________________________
September Meeting Report
The program didn't show, but Jack McKinney did. After the usual
reports from the officers, our program chair, Ray Shafer, let Jack
demo a TKG (The Kernel Group) utility called SCTrace (TM). Using a
Linux laptop he poked around in a third party application to see where
it went and what it did. Jack actually knew very little about the
application or the tool (SCTrace), but it was remarkable what it
showed. The application didn't crash, and the trace didn't seem to
affect the performance. If programmer's had this in System V Release
2, we'd probably wouldn't have seen so many segv segment violations.
The group ordered a variety of sampler plates from the Indian
resturaunt where we met. Most all of them were empty by the end of the
night, so we seem to be able to live on more than pizza.
_________________________________________________________________
August Meeting Report
By Gil Kloepfer
Because of the lack of a meeting topic for August's meeting we decided
to discuss the state of Austin broadband Internet connectivity for
UNIX users, particularly for those who want to run servers. The topic
was, in part, prompted by my personal quest to determine what options
I had available for a pending change of living accomodations. I found
myself frustrated and annoyed that the local Internet Service
Providers' (ISPs') web sites had little to no good information for
so-called "power users" looking for Internet connectivity.
We examined the web sites of several local and national ISPs to look
at the offerings by these organizations, pricing, and the acceptable
use policies (AUPs), and discussed our personal experiences. Among the
leading contenders were Southwestern Bell Internet Services (SWBIS),
Jump.Net (now Hosting.com), DirecTV Broadband Internet, Time-Warner's
RoadRunner, Onramp Access, among others. During the investigation, we
discovered that no ISP had a service offering that was well suited to
the UNIX-based "power user." The problems we discovered were:
1. Many broadband ISPs did not support static IP addressing and/or
specifically prohibited servers (Time-Warner being the most notable).
While DirecTV did support a static IP, they would only allow one.
SWBIS does provide a price- competitive service for those that wish to
run servers and would provide multiple static IPs.
2. Almost every ISP geared their offerings to Windows users, and had a
lack of or refused to support users' firewalls and routers. In the
case of SWBIS, their offering for servers and static IPs became less
price-competitive when their requirement for self-installation was not
available for UNIX users.
3. In general, there was insufficient information on ISPs' web sites
regarding pricing, availablity for static IP addressing, and ability
to utilize own routers and firewalls. Where it was apparent that there
was an offering that would work, it was difficult to tell whether or
not they understood the requirements well enough to take the order.
4. Some ISPs were (or have, as of the time of this writing) looking to
discontinue support for new personal broadband customers. In
particular, when Jump.Net became Hosting.com, they stopped accepting
new broadband customers (only full T1 and better commercial
customers).
The void has become so large that Chip Rosenthal has spearheaded a
discussion on USENET on this topic as well. I contacted Chip following
the CACTUS meeting, and he lamented finding the same problems that we
did.
The unfortunate thing is that technically savvy ISPs like Jump.Net
(who, as of this writing, has become Hosting.com) are moving toward
colocation and web hosting services, as opposed to providing
connectivity. Sources inside these ISPs note that their DSL service is
ultimately provided by Southwestern Bell, and that SWBIS has unfair
competitive advantages that make providing xDSL connectivity services
unprofitable.
In the end, my own personal solution was solved by continuing my
existing service with Hosting.com, who almost seamlessly moved my
Internet connection to the new ADSL line in my apartment. This worked
well because I was able to get ADSL at my new location, and I was
still within a service area that Hosting.com supported. Unfortunately,
this option is apparently not available for new customers.
I should note that we also looked at the web site of Outernet
Connection Strategies/Aperian (one of CACTUS' sponsors). While we have
been very pleased with the colocation services they have provided to
us, and we would continue to recommend them highly for colocation and
Internet consulting, we did not see very much at all in the way of
personal broadband Internet connectivity (particularly for xDSL) on
their web site.
In short, while the Internet and its applications have made great
advances over the last 5-10 years, the idea of a someone running some
small servers out of their home as a hobby at a reasonable price seems
to have taken a big step backward. Running one's own DNS, Apache, and
mail server is becoming extremely difficult in light of the ISPs'
offerings. The thought of a "connected" home seems to go only as far
as uploading webcam pictures to the personal area of an ISP's web
site. It's difficult to tell if all this is the result of poor
profitability for power user-type connectivity, or simply a fear in
the wake of all the recent "buffer overflow" security vulnerabilities.
In any case, those of us who still want this kind of service remain
discouraged and feel insecure about future connectivity options.
Membership
By Luis Basto
We want to thank Chris Nystrom for renewing his membership.
To renew your membership, please send check or money order payable to
CACTUS ($25/yr for regular membership and $96/yr for corporate
sponsorship):
CACTUS
PO BOX 9786
AUSTIN, TX 78766-9786
You can also pay in person at the general meetings. Please direct any
inquiries or address changes to membership@cactus.org.
_________________________________________________________________
CACTUS Officers
* President: Michael Rice ([8]mrice@colltech.com)
* Treasurer: Johnny Long ([9]longjy@thecb.texas.gov)
* Membership: Luis Basto ([10]membership@cactus.org)
* Programs: Ray Schafer ([11]schafer@tkg.com)
* Publicity: M.H. Khan ([12]mhk@cactus.org)
* Newsletter: Ron Roberts ([13]ronro@bga.com)
* Scribe: Lindsay Haisley ([14]fmouse@fmp.com)
* Members at Large:
* -- Jack McKinney ([15]mckinney@cactus.org)
* -- Gil Kloepfer ([16]gil@cactus.org)
Contact Information
* officers@cactus.org Comments to CACTUS officers comments
* admin@cactus.org CACTUS sysadmin volunteers
* membership@cactus.org Membership questions and suggestions
* newsletter@cactus.org Newsletter submissions and comments
_________________________________________________________________
CACTUS Sponsors
Significant Contributing Sponsors
Applied Research Laboratories/University of Texas at Austin
[17]www.arlut.utexas.edu
(Gil Kloepfer, Computer Science Division (CSD), 835-3771,
[18]gil@arlut.utexas.edu)
OuterNet [19]www.outer.net
Internet service provider.
CACTUS Sponsors
Auspex Systems [20]www.auspex.com
(Paul Levine, [21]plevine@auspex.com
Fastest reliable network fileservers.
Flametree Corporation [22]www.flametree.com
(David Maynard, 670-4090, [23]dpm@flametree.com)
Internet and software consulting.
Covad/Laserlink [24]www.laserlink.net
(Chip Rosenthal)
Multi Media Arts (MMA)
(Lee Williams, 451-7191)
Publisher of instructional materials for classroom and
independent study.
Friends of CACTUS
Applied Formal Methods, Inc.
(Susan Gerhart, 794-9732, [25]gerhart@cactus.org)
Austin Code Works
(Scott Guthery, 258-0785, [26]info@acw.com)
CASDNS, Inc. [27]www.casdns.net
(Warren Brown, (800) 977-3475), [28]wlb@cas-com.net)
A top-level domain name registrar, CORE member.
CTG
(Maurine Mecer, 502-0190 [FAX 502-0287])
Professional recruiting.
Compaq Computer Corporation [29]www.himalaya.compaq.com
(Ron Boerger, 432-8000)
Provider of scalable, high availability systems.
EDP Contract Services
(Mark Grabenhorst, 346-1040) Professional recruiting.
Hewlett Packard [30]www.hp.com
(Bill Sumrall, 338-7221)
Hounix [31]http://www.texascomputers.com/hounix/
(Marilyn Harper)
Houston's Unix Users Group.
Network Appliance Corporation[32] www.netapp.com
(Frank Mozina, fmozina@netapp.com)
O'Keefe Search [33]www.okeefesearch.com
Professional recuiting. (John OKeefe,
[34]john@okeefesearch.com, 512-658-9224 or 888-446-2137)
Sailaway System Design
(Chris J Johnson, 447-5243)
Schlumberger [35]www.slb.com
(Kathy O'Brien, [36]obrien@asc.slb.com)
Technical services and products in over 100 countries.
Silicon Graphics [37]www.sgi.com
(Don Williams, 346-9342)
Solid Systems
(Pete Farrell, 442-2222)
Sterling Infomation Group [38]www.sterinfo.com
(Darrell Hanshaw, 344-1005, [39]dhanshaw@sterinfo.com)
Sun Microsystems [40]www.sun.com
(Rick Taylor)
Supplier of Unix client-server computing solutions.
Texas Internet Consulting [41]www.tic.com
(Smoot Carl-Mitchell, 451-6176, [42]smoot@tic.com)
TCP/IP networking, Unix, and open systems standards.
Technow
A Sun Authorized Training Center and a Hardware Reseller.
Unison Software
(Shelley St. John, 478-0611)
Supplier of networked systems management solutions.
UT Computer Science Department
(Patti Spencer)
UT Computation Center
(Mike Cerda, 471-3241, [43]cerda@uts.cc.utexas.edu)
_________________________________________________________________
CACTUS Meeting Location:
Applied Research Labs
CACTUS meets on the third Thursday of each month at the Applied
Research Labs (ARL) in the JJ Jake Pickle Research Campus (JJ PRC).
We'll meet in the main auditorium located directly behind the guard's
desk and main lobby.
Please do not show up earlier than 6:20 pm on the specified day. Enter
through the main entrance at 10000 Burnet Road for ARL:UT. Tell the
guard that you are here for the CACTUS meeting. You will be required
to sign a log book, but not required to wear a badge. The guards will
direct you to the auditorium entrance. Limited parking in the front of
the building is available, but more extensive parking is available in
the large parking lot just north of the ARL building. After 6:30 pm,
all entrances to JJ PRC, except for the Burnet Road entrance, are
closed and locked. You can still enter the parking lot in front of the
ARL building. No parking tags are necessary after 6:00 pm. See map for
further details.
Online maps are available at:
* [44]http://www.utexas.edu/maps/prc/ -- J.J. Pickle Research Campus
* [45]http://www.utexas.edu/maps/prc/areas/se.html -- South East
Quadrant (ARL:UT)
As always, please leave the facility as you saw it when you arrived.
So let's clean up all pizza and soda items before we leave. Thanks and
hope to see all of you there.
_________________________________________________________________
Map to the Monthly CACTUS Meeting
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| | | North
| | | to Braker Lane
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| Parking | | |
| Lot | | |
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+------------+ | |
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| | | | | | Rutland
| ARL | | | | +---------
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| | | South
| | | to US 183
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References
1. file://localhost/var/www/www.cactus.org/docs/CACTUS/cn102001.html#meeting
2. file://localhost/var/www/www.cactus.org/docs/CACTUS/cn102001.html#minutes
3. file://localhost/var/www/www.cactus.org/docs/CACTUS/cn102001.html#minutes
4. file://localhost/var/www/www.cactus.org/docs/CACTUS/cn102001.html#membership
5. file://localhost/var/www/www.cactus.org/docs/CACTUS/cn102001.html#officers
6. file://localhost/var/www/www.cactus.org/docs/CACTUS/cn102001.html#sponsors
7. file://localhost/var/www/www.cactus.org/docs/CACTUS/cn102001.html#location
8. mailto:mrice@colltech.com
9. mailto:longjy@thecb.texas.gov
10. mailto:membership@cactus.org
11. mailto:schafer@tkg.com
12. mailto:mhk@cactus.org
13. mailto:ronro@bga.com
14. mailto:fmouse@fmp.com
15. mailto:mckinney@cactus.org
16. mailto:mckinney@cactus.org
17. http://www.arlut.utexas.edu/
18. mailto:gil@arlut.utexas.edu
19. http://www.outer.net/
20. http://www.auspex.com/
21. mailto:plevine@auspex.com
22. http://www.flametree.com/
23. mailto:dpm@flametree.com
24. http://www.laserlink.net/
25. mailto:gerhart@cactus.org
26. mailto:info@acw.com
27. http://www.casdns.net/
28. mailto:wlb@cas-com.net
29. http://www.himalaya.compaq.com/
30. http://www.hp.com/
31. http://www.texascomputers.com/hounix/
32. http://www.netapp.com/
33. http://www.okeefesearch.com/
34. mailto:john@okeefesearch.com
35. http://www.slb.com/
36. mailto:obrien@asc.slb.com
37. http://www.sgi.com/
38. http://www.sterinfo.com/
39. mailto:dhanshaw@sterinfo.com
40. http://www.sun.com/
41. http://www.tic.com/
42. mailto:smoot@tic.com
43. mailto:cerda@uts.cc.utexas.edu
44. http://www.utexas.edu/maps/prc/
45. http://www.utexas.edu/maps/prc/areas/se.html
--
Ron Roberts ronro@bga.com or ronr@cactus.org Phone (512) 219-0043
Usenet invented "no controlling legal authority."
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