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Article #28843Re: baud rate question
From: Chip Rosenthal
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 00:00
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 00:00
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In article <42qk8c$a8n@anarchy.io.com>, Jim McCoy <mccoy@io.com> wrote: >Well, sort of. The current phone system samples signals at a rate of 8 KHz, >and so there is a finite limit on how much information can be sent over >a signal such as this Actually, it's not even "sort of". It's just plain wrong. A conventional analog phone line has a bandwidth of about 3000Hz. The 8KHz has to do with the sampling rate required to represent this analog signal as a digital one. (The Nyquist rate.) It's quite possible the analog signal passes from beginning to end without ever being converted to a 64Kbps digital signal. (Well, not really. In this age of digital switching, it's just about a certainty that the signal gets digitized at the central office, if not sooner.) >the Shannon limit, named for the the Bell researcher who discovered it and >invented the field of information theory at the same time. Yep, that's it. For a typical "voice grade" circuit, the Shannon Limit is 24,000 bits/second. (This result falls out from plugging a few values into a simple formula.) One of the things that effects that value is the line noise. Thus, science says exactly what people report: when things are very, very good you can get 28.8K. That is, however, pushing the envelope, and frequently you will get less. Sometimes much less. I strongly recommend |Understanding Data Communications| (published by Sams) for anybody interested in this stuff. Earlier editions were carried by Rat Shack. I bought the 3rd ed. a few years back at Bookstop. It does an *excellent* job of explaining the technical fundamentals of data communications, particularly modems, without getting bogged down in esoteric engineering. -- Chip Rosenthal Ban excessive reposts: /^X-Mailer: Mozilla/h:j Unicom Systems Development For a good time: http://www.unicom.com/john-hiatt/ PGP key: http://www.unicom.com/personal/chip.html
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 113866,3149597f192b137b X-Google-Attributes: gid113866,public From: chip@unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal) Subject: Re: baud rate question Date: 1995/09/09 Message-ID: <DEM4ED.E7s@unicom.com> X-Deja-AN: 109748506 x-nntp-posting-host: chinacat.unicom.com sender: root@unicom.com (System Administrator) references: <42pkam$7oj@Sierra.onr.com> <42pn4e$hgq@hello-nurse.cs.utexas.edu> <42qk8c$a8n@anarchy.io.com> organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX newsgroups: austin.internet