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6 total messages Started by Doug Lassiter Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:40
turbo?
#205
Author: Doug Lassiter
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:40
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So what's this RR "turbo" package? Speed "bursts" to 22Mbps down,
2Mbps up, they say.  OK, as in for one millisecond, or for a hundred
seconds? What is a "burst", and what do bursts do for me? Also, how
much does it cost? The RR website seems not to want to quote a price,
except to say that the first month is free. Yeah, I suppose it's
mainly for gaming, but are there specs? I figure it must depend on
network availability, in which case you might not get it much. Anyone
use it? What kind of speed tests do you use to see if you're getting
the bursts?

I'm happy with my DSL, but this looked mildly interesting.
Re: turbo?
#207
Author: Doug McLaren
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:38
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On 2008-07-22, Doug Lassiter <dlass51@hotmail.com> wrote:

| So what's this RR "turbo" package? Speed "bursts" to 22Mbps down,
| 2Mbps up, they say.  OK, as in for one millisecond, or for a hundred
| seconds? What is a "burst", and what do bursts do for me?

The web page said as the network permits.  Probably it means that
things are fast as long as the overall network utilization is lower
than X%, but you lose your burst speed when it goes over that
watermark.  It's not clear what your speed drops to in that case -- to
the standard speed?  Lower?

| Also, how much does it cost? The RR website seems not to want to
| quote a price

You noticed that too?  It doesn't seem to quote any prices, beyond the
discount price for the bundles ...

| Yeah, I suppose it's mainly for gaming

Probably not.  Gaming certainly doesn't need 22 Mbps down.  Most
(client) gaming would probably work OK over an ISDN line, and
certainly with 512 Kbps or so.

Who would benefit from this?  People who want to move large files, up
and down, fast.

-- 
Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzied.us                                 We get signal
Re: turbo?
#208
Author: Doug Lassiter
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:40
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On Jul 23, 10:38 am, Doug McLaren <dougmc+use...@frenzied.us> wrote:
> On 2008-07-22, Doug Lassiter <dlas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> | So what's this RR "turbo" package? Speed "bursts" to 22Mbps down,
> | 2Mbps up, they say.  OK, as in for one millisecond, or for a hundred
> | seconds? What is a "burst", and what do bursts do for me?
>
> The web page said as the network permits.  Probably it means that
> things are fast as long as the overall network utilization is lower
> than X%, but you lose your burst speed when it goes over that
> watermark.  It's not clear what your speed drops to in that case -- to
> the standard speed?  Lower?
>
> | Also, how much does it cost? The RR website seems not to want to
> | quote a price
>
> You noticed that too?  It doesn't seem to quote any prices, beyond the
> discount price for the bundles ...
>
> | Yeah, I suppose it's mainly for gaming
>
> Probably not.  Gaming certainly doesn't need 22 Mbps down.  Most
> (client) gaming would probably work OK over an ISDN line, and
> certainly with 512 Kbps or so.
>
> Who would benefit from this?  People who want to move large files, up
> and down, fast.
>
> --
> Doug McLaren, dou...@frenzied.us                                 We get signal

Thanks.

But I guess people who want to move large files up and down fast would
have to assume that they'd get their "burst" speed for a substantial
piece of time. You would think that in marketing this feature,
consumers would be given some reassurance of what data rates they'd be
getting. (Which is, in some sense, contradictory to the whole cable
experience, in which rates depend on local traffic.) That is, in what
would be a minute-long download, getting a burst speed for one second
wouldn't do me much good.

So what they're doing is making the speed cap higher. But that doesn't
cleanly translate into performance any more than a speed limit sign at
rush hour translates into mobility.

But again, how do you know you're getting value out of it? If you buy
it, and your overall speeds go up a notch, it could be because the
local traffic just happened to go down a notch. It would be
interesting to hear fromm someone who did it.
Re: turbo?
#303
Author: justsomedude
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:07
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Doug Lassiter wrote:
> On Jul 23, 10:38 am, Doug McLaren <dougmc+use...@frenzied.us> wrote:
>> On 2008-07-22, Doug Lassiter <dlas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> | So what's this RR "turbo" package? Speed "bursts" to 22Mbps down,
>> | 2Mbps up, they say.  OK, as in for one millisecond, or for a hundred
>> | seconds? What is a "burst", and what do bursts do for me?
>>
>> The web page said as the network permits.  Probably it means that
>> things are fast as long as the overall network utilization is lower
>> than X%, but you lose your burst speed when it goes over that
>> watermark.  It's not clear what your speed drops to in that case -- to
>> the standard speed?  Lower?
>>
>> | Also, how much does it cost? The RR website seems not to want to
>> | quote a price
>>
>> You noticed that too?  It doesn't seem to quote any prices, beyond the
>> discount price for the bundles ...
>>
>> | Yeah, I suppose it's mainly for gaming
>>
>> Probably not.  Gaming certainly doesn't need 22 Mbps down.  Most
>> (client) gaming would probably work OK over an ISDN line, and
>> certainly with 512 Kbps or so.
>>
>> Who would benefit from this?  People who want to move large files, up
>> and down, fast.
>>
>> --
>> Doug McLaren, dou...@frenzied.us                                 We get signal
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> But I guess people who want to move large files up and down fast would
> have to assume that they'd get their "burst" speed for a substantial
> piece of time. You would think that in marketing this feature,
> consumers would be given some reassurance of what data rates they'd be
> getting. (Which is, in some sense, contradictory to the whole cable
> experience, in which rates depend on local traffic.) That is, in what
> would be a minute-long download, getting a burst speed for one second
> wouldn't do me much good.
> 
> So what they're doing is making the speed cap higher. But that doesn't
> cleanly translate into performance any more than a speed limit sign at
> rush hour translates into mobility.
> 
> But again, how do you know you're getting value out of it? If you buy
> it, and your overall speeds go up a notch, it could be because the
> local traffic just happened to go down a notch. It would be
> interesting to hear fromm someone who did it.

It costs 10.00 more a month.  I get a constant 1.5Mb/s upstream.  I 
haven't tested the download speed as I hardly ever download anything at 
home.
Re: turbo?
#305
Author: Don
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:35
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:07:35 -0600, justsomedude <dude@aol.com> wrote:

>Doug Lassiter wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 10:38 am, Doug McLaren <dougmc+use...@frenzied.us> wrote:
>>> On 2008-07-22, Doug Lassiter <dlas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> | So what's this RR "turbo" package? Speed "bursts" to 22Mbps down,
>>> | 2Mbps up, they say.  OK, as in for one millisecond, or for a hundred
>>> | seconds? What is a "burst", and what do bursts do for me?
>>>
>>> The web page said as the network permits.  Probably it means that
>>> things are fast as long as the overall network utilization is lower
>>> than X%, but you lose your burst speed when it goes over that
>>> watermark.  It's not clear what your speed drops to in that case -- to
>>> the standard speed?  Lower?
>>>
>>> | Also, how much does it cost? The RR website seems not to want to
>>> | quote a price
>>>
>>> You noticed that too?  It doesn't seem to quote any prices, beyond the
>>> discount price for the bundles ...
>>>
>>> | Yeah, I suppose it's mainly for gaming
>>>
>>> Probably not.  Gaming certainly doesn't need 22 Mbps down.  Most
>>> (client) gaming would probably work OK over an ISDN line, and
>>> certainly with 512 Kbps or so.
>>>
>>> Who would benefit from this?  People who want to move large files, up
>>> and down, fast.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Doug McLaren, dou...@frenzied.us                                 We get signal
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> But I guess people who want to move large files up and down fast would
>> have to assume that they'd get their "burst" speed for a substantial
>> piece of time. You would think that in marketing this feature,
>> consumers would be given some reassurance of what data rates they'd be
>> getting. (Which is, in some sense, contradictory to the whole cable
>> experience, in which rates depend on local traffic.) That is, in what
>> would be a minute-long download, getting a burst speed for one second
>> wouldn't do me much good.
>> 
>> So what they're doing is making the speed cap higher. But that doesn't
>> cleanly translate into performance any more than a speed limit sign at
>> rush hour translates into mobility.
>> 
>> But again, how do you know you're getting value out of it? If you buy
>> it, and your overall speeds go up a notch, it could be because the
>> local traffic just happened to go down a notch. It would be
>> interesting to hear fromm someone who did it.
>
>It costs 10.00 more a month.  I get a constant 1.5Mb/s upstream.  I 
>haven't tested the download speed as I hardly ever download anything at 
>home.

Unbeknownst to me, my wife got this option recently.  I tested
transfer of files from my home to shop through my remote control NetOp
software.  The speed was about double.  If I get the same option at
the shop my remote control should be significantly faster as it is the
upload speeds that hold it back.

Don
www.donsautomotive.com
Re: turbo?
#306
Author: the wharf rat
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:54
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In article <4j16j4hn4k8jqpqgi0jv51pdsjnaf7nd7p@4ax.com>,
Don  <HATESPAM_don@donsHATESPAMautomotive.com> wrote:
>
>Unbeknownst to me, my wife got this option recently.  I tested

	Sounds like a good topic for Jerry Springer.  "My wife
upgraded our internet connection...without telling me!"


	You could have a big fight over whether banner ads and 
clickthrough popups load faster.
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