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Article #4068Re: Car Manufacturers
From: John F. Haugh II
Date: Sun, 17 May 1992 23:16
Date: Sun, 17 May 1992 23:16
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In article <1992May15.155134.25958@pencom.com> gad@pencom.com writes: >I take great offense at seeing a discussion about auto quality and the >current trends in the worldwide marketplace transform into a racial >discussion. First you claim that I'm somehow prejudiced based on my >citations of actual personal experience with various specific models, and >then you liken me to a racist for saying I trusted the manufacturer and >bought their product. The logic used to make that connection escapes me. My point is that the same method of argumentation is used to advance agendas under the covers. "I don't think <X> is really bad, but let me tell you about all my bad experiences with <X>." If you were to be completely fair about <X>, for <X> == <Ford Motor Company products made in America> you would be telling us how much you like the various designs features of the <Ford Motor Company products made in America> that you own. You've not hestitated to tell about the cars which are not members of <X> and their nice features - being balanced and unbiased means you present good and bad sides of the issue. >Look, I pointed out actual experiences with specific products, both American >and Japanese. You pointed out specific awards, studies, and some personal >experiences. My premise thru all of this has been that I (me, George Durden) >apply greater precedance to my own personal experiences than to the >cited studies and awards. You may claim, possibly rightfully so, that my >experiences are not representative of the average. Regardless, that doesn't >make my expereinces any last real, actual, or factual. Yes, you did point out actual experience with your specific products. But at the same time you complained about the quality of American made products, you are busily driving an American made car and not telling us in the same glowing terms, how all of its features helped you to choose it over the competition. This is part of the predisposition against American made products. Don't say good things about them, even though there are many good things to be said (for example, the most accurate body ever built was not built in Japan, it was built in America by Pontiac). We have forgotten that we, as a nation, started buying Japanese cars for one primary reason. They got better gas milage and gas was in short supply at a high price. We bought Japanese radios because they were cheap and could be stuck in your pocket. Not because Japanese cars and radios had "higher quality" - because they were cheap or cheap to operate at the time. This is what we forgot, and we're being played for fools. -- John F. Haugh II | Vida en La Republica de Tejas: Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 | Gov. Ann Richards after shooting her UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh | first wild turkey of the season on Domain: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org | hunting deer: "[It's] as boring as dirt."
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: ffea8,fd9311731ccd3a7e X-Google-Attributes: gidffea8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-05-17 12:42:24 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!sun-barr!apple!cs.utexas.edu!chinacat!rpp386!jfh From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II) Newsgroups: austin.talk Subject: Re: Car Manufacturers Message-ID: <20791@rpp386.lonestar.org> Date: 17 May 92 23:16:11 GMT References: <20778@rpp386.lonestar.org> <1992May15.155134.25958@pencom.com> Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) Distribution: austin Organization: River Parishes Programming, Austin, Republic of Texas Lines: 48