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Article #4071Re: Reminder: Case against environmentalism lecture
From: Robin D. Wilson
Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 17:54
Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 17:54
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In article <20783@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II) writes: > In article <1992May13.152708.20443@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, john@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti) writes: > > With all due respect to the AG of Florida (the state that gave us Bob > > Martinez), one look at the April issue of Consumer Reports auto > > maintenance section (which is also based on actual complaints) shows > > a proliferation of black marks on all the American makes, and red > > marks on all of the Japanese makes (red=good). > > Consumer Reports is not what would be called a "scientific study". It > is a self-selected survey. It's like the polls on the TV stations. > > Imagine that I think my car is wonderful. Imagine that my car has had > 3 problems in the last year, but that I think 5 is acceptable. Will I > respond to a survey and say my car is lousey? More likely I will down > play the severity of those 3 problems if I respond at all. The problem > with the Consumer Reports surveys is that they allow people who think > that 1 problem is too many to rate a car poorly, and for the guy who > thinks 5 is OK to rate a car well. > > Well, this is what happens with American made cars. It's like when > the head of GM took a bunch of congressmen and showed them a bunch of > American cars and a bunch of Japanese cars and asked which got the > better gas milage. Their answer was that the Japanese cars did. But > that was wrong - as I explained earlier, the Cadillac V8 is a more > fuel efficient engine than the V6 in the Japanese cars. Well,... I just HAD to comment here. Either John doesn't read CR, or he doesn't read the information on how they do their studies... For the cars: They rate the cars based on number of reported problems in a specific mechanical/trim area of the vehicle. The "ratings" are then based on the "average" number of problems for that particular area, versus the actual for that car. (ie. if I had 10 problems with the electrical system on my Oldsmobile, and the average for all cars (in the survey) was 5, I would have a dark black circle (far below average) on my electrical system rating. If I had only 2 problems then I would have a solid red circle (far above average).) CR, makes a disclaimer explaining how they collect results, and how they make their evaluations; I suggest you read it and decide for yourself. As far as who gets the better fuel economy... Whichever car goes farther on a single gallon of gas gets the best GAS MILEAGE. Whichever car gets more torque/horsepower/foot-pounds/bullshit per gallon doesn't really matter unless you need that much umph to push the heavy beast around. -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |These are MY views, nobody where I work even knows I have views ;-) | |Internet: robin@pencom.com | |US Mail: 8-6 Brooke Club Dr. Home Phone: (914) 923-4093 | | Ossining, NY 10562 Work Phone: (212) 513-7777 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: ffea8,56635c72c729ef65 X-Google-Attributes: gidffea8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-05-18 11:03:32 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!sun-barr!apple!cs.utexas.edu!natinst.com!news.dell.com!uudell!pensoft!batman!news From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: austin.talk Subject: Re: Reminder: Case against environmentalism lecture Message-ID: <1992May18.175443.26519@pencom.com> Date: 18 May 92 17:54:43 GMT References: <20783@rpp386.lonestar.org> Sender: news@pencom.com Reply-To: robin@pencom.com Distribution: austin Organization: Pencom Software Lines: 53