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Previously on az.sf, CuCon@casfs.org (Jim Strait) wrote:
>Troy@McNemar.com (T. Troy McNemar) wrote:

Same comments about tone that I used earlier.  If my comments come off as
hostile, please attribute it to my not taking proper time to construct the
tone of my sentences rather than any actual hostility.  I'm trying to be
constructive regardless of whether I actually achieve it.  :)

And you've done an impressive job, Jim, even if I do disagree with some of
your choices.  I regret that I didn't mention that in my prior message.

As an initial matter, where are the answers to the music quiz?  (I.e.,
guess what I did yesterday after I posted to az.sf?)

>>I don't like embedded music on web pages.  I'm almost always listening to
>>music on my computer, and a web page with an embedded song interferes.  I
>>recommend axing the Thunderbirds theme.  Or, at least, making it something
>>that the user voluntarily elects to play.
>
>I have heard this comment before.  But I don't happen to agree with it.  Every 
>page I surf to that starts music playing like that impresses me.  And more 
>importantly it sets a mood I was after.  Dry facts on a page can't do that.  It 
>is like a movie with no background music.  However, since many are annoyed by 
>the music, I put the controls to stop it near the top.

I understand your position, but I really don't like a website taking over
control of my computer sound system without my consent.  I expect it to
fill my web browser and I wouldn't have gone to the site if I didn't want
to see the visual content.  But the audio content was unexpected and
interferes with listening to the Metallica that I downloaded off of
Napster.  :)

>>The dancing penguins and the bowing genie don't serve any purpose and
>>should be eliminated.  Animated .gifs on web pages quickly wear out their
>>novelty value.
>
>I felt, again, that they helped set the mood for what I was trying to say in 
>the portion of the page they were on.  They also attract attention beyond a 
>list of facts.   And they are 100% novelty value, so losing that value is 
>equivalent to not having them.  In the mean time they served their purpose.  As 
>it is, the penguins were the favorite part of the page for the Con chairman.

You don't need to attract attention on the page itself, though.  The user
has already made it to the site.  Presumably, they're there for the
content.

Look at it this way.  There's three types of people:  People who will be
annoyed by cute penguin animated .gifs; people who don't care one way or
the other about cute penguin animated .gifs; and people who like cute
penguin animated .gifs.  Now, you are trying to sell something.  If you
put up cute penguin animated .gifs, you potentially lose a sale to people
who are annoyed by them.  If you don't put up the cute penguin animated
.gifs, you aren't as attractive to the people who like them but the site
hopefully makes up for that by being interesting and informative in other
ways

>I was planning on providing more web reference info on the guests as I found 
>them.  We have had this on other CopperCon pages in the past, Did it make a 
>difference to you when we have in the past?  

No.  I've never been to a CopperCon.  :)

>What could I tell you about 
>CopperCon that would make you want to attend (short of lieing about it or 
>changing the Con)?  Backgroung, history, pictures, attendees, samples of 
>guests, testimonials, explanations, puzzles or amusements combined with the 
>above?

I'd really just like to know what to expect for my admission fee.  I've
never been to an SF con and I don't know anyone who's been to an SF con.
What is the typical experience for a CopperCon attendee who isn't active
in Phoenix area SF fandom?  

Pictures would be good.  But I'd really like to know things like what's
for sale in the dealer's room and what types of discussion panels are
available.

-- 
T. Troy McNemar                                    Troy@McNemar.com
"If you want sense, you'll have to make it yourself."
--The Dodecahedron in Norton Juster's _The Phantom Tollbooth_
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