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Troy@McNemar.com (T. Troy McNemar) wrote in
<jmacos06vup9k4krqb1rr15k4ioci3sdfm@4ax.com>: 

>Previously on az.sf, CuCon@casfs.org (Jim Strait) wrote:
>>Troy@McNemar.com (T. Troy McNemar) wrote:
>
>Same comments about tone that I used earlier.  If my comments come off
>as hostile, please attribute it to my not taking proper time to
>construct the tone of my sentences rather than any actual hostility. 
>I'm trying to be constructive regardless of whether I actually achieve
>it.  :) 
>

Understood.  Byt hat same token I hope you realize that I don't agree with some 
comments.  Others I fould quite valuable.

>And you've done an impressive job, Jim, even if I do disagree with some
>of your choices.  I regret that I didn't mention that in my prior
>message. 
>
>As an initial matter, where are the answers to the music quiz?  (I.e.,
>guess what I did yesterday after I posted to az.sf?)
>

?

>
>I understand your position, but I really don't like a website taking
>over control of my computer sound system without my consent.  I expect
>it to fill my web browser and I wouldn't have gone to the site if I
>didn't want to see the visual content.  But the audio content was
>unexpected and interferes with listening to the Metallica that I
>downloaded off of Napster.  :)
>

Yes.  On some site's I have to click the mute box.  Still others I am 
mezmerized and play over and over.  

>
>You don't need to attract attention on the page itself, though.  The
>user has already made it to the site.  Presumably, they're there for the
>content.
>

Agreed.

>Look at it this way.  There's three types of people:  People who will be
>annoyed by cute penguin animated .gifs; people who don't care one way or
>the other about cute penguin animated .gifs; and people who like cute
>penguin animated .gifs.  Now, you are trying to sell something.  If you
>put up cute penguin animated .gifs, you potentially lose a sale to
>people who are annoyed by them.  If you don't put up the cute penguin
>animated .gifs, you aren't as attractive to the people who like them but
>the site hopefully makes up for that by being interesting and
>informative in other ways

My assumption is that, of the majority that don't care or like them, Have I 
expressed a mood of joy or amusement at least subconsiously?  If so, then they 
will be more open to the concept that the convention will also be enjoyable.  
If they have no effect, then nothing was lost.  If they have a negative effect, 
then it is unlikely I would be able to convince that the convention would be 
fun not matter what information I could provide.  Like or dislike is not really 
an issue, with the possible effect of word of mouth.  Which is more likely, 
"Oh, you have to go to this CC21 site.  They have cute penguins."  or  "Oh, 
don't go to the CC21 site.  They have annoying penguines."  

>
>
>No.  I've never been to a CopperCon.  :)
>
>
>I'd really just like to know what to expect for my admission fee.  I've
>never been to an SF con and I don't know anyone who's been to an SF con.
>What is the typical experience for a CopperCon attendee who isn't active
>in Phoenix area SF fandom?  
>
>Pictures would be good.  But I'd really like to know things like what's
>for sale in the dealer's room and what types of discussion panels are
>available.
>

Damn good idea!

Ok.  It took a while, but I have added narratives on most (if not all) of the 
events mentioned.  I geared them towards someone who has never been to fan-run 
SF/F convention before.  I also created Information Sheets on the guests listed 
with what pictures I could find.  I will have look for pictures of events. But 
in the mean time could you look at the write ups under each department and tell 
me (in general) if that is what you felt was needed.  I can't provide 
specifics.  For that you need to contact the Dept Head.

http://www.casfs.org/cucon/cu21/cc21.html

It's funny that you mention pictures of the various areas, because at the last 
LepreCon we went around and recorded sample video footage.  Our intention was 
to use it to make a commercial on the local feed of the SciFi Channel on cable 
TV.  We still might be able to pull it off, but I don't know.  There are a 
number of technical issues still pending.  We did it before, but the ad was 
mostly still frames and computer animation.  We wanted to show short live 
action bits of attendees, events & locations.  That is what I am after now.