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Jim Strait <Jim@Strait.org> wrote:
: pmc@primenet.com (Patrick Connors) wrote 

: >Jim Strait <CuCon@casfs.org> wrote:
: >: Troy@McNemar.com (T. Troy McNemar) wrote
: >
: >: >Previously on az.sf, CuCon@casfs.org (Jim Strait) wrote:
: >: >
: >: >>I would be interested in opinions of the new CopperCon 21 page. 
: >: >
: >
: >
: >Well, Jim, I think you'd better study some Web design, then.
: >
: >I don't mean HTML and Java and all that: I mean human interface. 
: >
: >If I didn't have DSL at home, I would not have waited for the Web site
: >to load at my old speed of 28.8 to 32KBPS (which was what I was getting 
: >with the lines I had pre DSL).  Also, I often turn JavaScript off.
: >Sometimes I log in to a site text-only.
: >
: >Understand: I'm not saying don't have graphics and sound. I -am- saying
: >that there are proven ways to have a more effective Web experience.
: >
: >Try this Web site for specifics:
: >
: >  www.asktog.com
: >
: >That site is run by Bruce Tognazzini (I've just messed up his name, I'm
: >sure...) who is a user-interface specialist with 20 years experience.
: >Lots of good stuff there - most of it easy to implement.
: >


: Yes.  We have spoken of this and his web site before, Pat, in discussions about 
: your WesterCon Bid site.  I reviewed his site again, though.  He has a list of 
: common major "Don'ts".  I believe, with the exception of load time, I do not 
: violate any of them.  On my browser I can turn off java scripts, background 
: colors & images, animations, and the like.  The page seems to load almost 
: immediately set that way, although bland.  If your connection is always too 
: slow for you, and it seems like the page is taking too long to load, you can 
: usually press the "Stop" button and review the content.  I asked others if they 
: felt the CC21 page took too long to load, and although they said it did take a 
: while, they felt it did not.  

: On the CC21 site I chose just midi files which are small and gifs & small jpgs.  
: The first draft of the rotating CC21 gif was much larger.  We dinked with it 
: and re-rendered to get it down to the smallest possible size without making its 
: appearence suffer.  It seemed that the loading of the plug-in took longer than 
: the load of the midi.  That would be computer dependent.  But the specific 
: appearence was what I was after, not just random images.  

: I admit, if my goal was to just provide convention information is efficiently 
: as possible, I am sadly lacking.  But I do not feel that is the goal.  There 
: are marketing issues that Tog does not address, just complains around them.  

: As I review Tog's comments again, I still don't see what you are pointing out 
: that the CC21 page lacks.  Did you have specfic points (beyond load time)?

Load time was my biggest concern, as that's the number one item that
causes users to go away. I just don't like a lot of bells and
whistles on Web sites in the first place, and there we'll agree to 
disagree, unless I want to take over managing the Web site.  Load time
doesn't look too bad, but I've got DSL and so am a bit spoiled. :)

I'd also like to apologize for my tone in that last post.

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