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Article #129Re: SF Bicyclist runs red light, seriously injures pedestrian
From: Robert Neff
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 04:01
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 04:01
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Thanks for the sampling of data, JC. I stop at red lights, and slow down and prepare to stop at stop signs if it's not my turn. My experience on Foothill expressway in the evening is that most of the cyclists stop, but my sense is that red light running, and right-turn/U-turn/right turn red light avoidance has become more common amoung the racing/training crowd this year, than has been in the past. It is still low (less than 5 % of solo cyclists, maybe only 2%.) The guys I see (always guys) are on their own, either with a fancy bike and matching kit, or a fine italian steel racing bike and no helmet. Well, that was probably 2 of the five people I've seen. Cycling groups/clubs do stop if the light is red, but become colorblind when the light changes and their lead rider is arriving at the intersection. (This happens to my club, too, and sometimes you hear amazing rationalizations for this.) If you have a conversation starter for when you catch up with one of these guys at the next light, let me know. We can always talk about our local cycling fatalities and injuries from this kind of thing. -- Robert
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