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Article #185Re: new bike lanes on lyell (SF)
From: Gregory Sutter
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:28
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:28
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On 2011-01-11, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: > On 2011-01-11, Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org> wrote: > > I'm less impressed with the striping between Still and Alemany for > eastbound traffic. What's a biker supposed to do when he hits the > traffic jam that piles up at the Alemany traffic light? The lanes are > too narrow for a bike to squeeze through, the sidewalk is a busy > pedestrian sidewalk, and turning onto Cayuga sticks you on Cayuga for a > long time if you want to go southbound on Alemany. The only option here > is to dismount and use the sidewalk for that block. Then again, what > other options are there? Making the counterflow lane narrower puts > those bikers at risk instead. I suppose the biker is supposed to wait in line with the cars until the light turns green. The lanes are marked with sharrows to indicate this. But I can tell by your route-around ideas that you're not a fan of that. :) Neither am I, when it can be helped, but as you said, there is no room to get by. >> - Even after all these street changes, there is still *no* good way >> for a pedestrian to cross Bosworth anywhere east of the crosswalks >> at Diamond, all the way down to the crosswalks at Alemany. People >> are constantly cutting across underneath the San Jose bridge, despite >> the fast moving traffic coming down the hill and the parade of >> evenly-spaced cars coming up from the two stop signs at Lyell and >> Bosworth. Why was a pedestrian crossing not considered? > > How would it be done, short of putting a traffic light at the Bosworth/ > Arlington/I-280 onramp intersections? Not that that's a bad idea, but > it probably wasn't part of the bike lane restriping funding. A traffic > light would help pedestrians crossing the on ramp, too; traffic turning > onto the ramp is often crazy, and drivers often aren't looking for peds > along the entire length of the crosswalk. I agree with your assessment of the on-ramp traffic, but that intersection's proximity to the already jammed Bosworth/Diamond intersection would make the light timing difficult. What I would do instead (or in addition) is to turn the Bosworth/Bosworth/Lyell intersection into a normal three-way "tee" intersection, with stop signs all directions and a full set of crosswalks. Removing parts of the traffic islands so that southbound traffic can turn left from Bosworth-that-parallels-San-Jose onto Lyell would go a long way toward unfucking that whole area. -- Gregory S. Sutter "How do I read this file?" mailto:gsutter@zer0.org "You uudecode it." http://zer0.org/~gsutter/ "I I I decode it?"
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