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Re: Keefe Bartels investigation into HD Radio picking up steam - LMFAO!!!

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From: dave
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:34
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John Smith wrote:
> On 9/9/2010 8:33 PM, dave wrote:
>
>> ...
>> 128 sounds very ragged to me. It's fine for the car or background music
>> but when I put on my Grado headphones the lossy compression is not
>> really a pleasure to listen to.
>
> This:
> "Audio (MP3)
> 32 kbit/s � MW (AM) quality
> 96 kbit/s � FM quality - This is questionable since FM broadcast is
> transmitted in analog 30hz-15khz. Similarly one cannot compare directly
> an LP record to CD using kbit/s.
> 128�160 kbit/s � Standard Bitrate quality; difference can sometimes be
> obvious (e.g. lack of low frequency quality and high frequency "swashy"
> effects)[citation needed]
> 224�320 kbit/s � VBR to highest MP3 quality"
>
> from here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rate
>
> At 225 kbit, it is strange it is so offensive to your ear, it is
> approaching concert hall quality ... 96 kbit is ~equal to fm radio ... I
> think what your are hearing is more in your mind than anywhere else.
>
> Regards,
> JS

I have done blind A/B testing. WAV or FLAC always beats AAC, at any 
bitrate.  AAC+ SBR, the flavor used for digital radio, is even more 
annoying due to false triggering of the pink noise pumper and the total 
lack of any sense of space.  A typical 78 RPM analog record has more 
ambience.

I do all my entertainment radiolistening via web unless I'm somewhere 
without wireless broadband or listening to the AM radio.  I find the 
vast majority of FM radio stations unlistenable due to the extreme 
dynamics processing.
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