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On Nov 17, 9:46 pm, Ras Mikaere Enoch Mc Carty <mika...@live.com>
wrote:
> The TALMUD (JEWS)
> BOLSHEVIKS = REGULATED PEDOPHILIA
> (Talmud, Torah, Kabbalah)
> Permits Child-Adult Sex
> Talmud law permits sexual intercourse between
> children and adults.

Twaddle.

> This doctrine is contained in a number of Mishnahs.

A "number of Mishnahs"? How many "mishnahs" do you think there are?

> " KETHUBAH (Lit., 'a written [document]'); (a) a wife's marriage
> settlement which she is entitled to recover on her being divorced
> or on the death of her husband. The minimum settlement for a virgin
> is two hundred zuz, and for a widow remarrying one hundred zuz;
> (b) the marriage contract specifying the mutual obligations
> between husband and wife and containing the amount of the endowment
> and any other special financial obligations assumed by the husband. "
>
> — Babylonian Talmud, Soncino Talmud Glossary
>
> Zuz is a unit of currency. We see, then, that a dollar (or zuz)
> value is put on virginity.

One dollar? Twaddle.

zuz
noun
an ancient Jewish silver coin, the fourth part of a silver sheqel

sheqel
noun
1.
a paper money or silver coin, monetary unit of Israel equal to 100
agorot: replaced the pound in 1980.
2.
an ancient Babylonian unit of weight of varying value, taken as equal
to the fiftieth or the sixtieth part of a mina, or to about a quarter
to half an ounce.
3.
a coin of this weight, especially the chief silver coin of the ancient
Hebrews.

mina
ancient Sumerian unit of weight equivalent to 60 (50) sheqels; also a
unit of currency.
       In the reign of Ur-Nammu, the mina had a value of 1/60 talents,
or 60 sheqels.
       In Ugarit, a shequel was 1/50 of a mina.
       In ancient Greece the mna (from Semitic mina) was equal to 100
drachmae.
       In the 1stC CE, the mina equaled one fourth of the annual
earnings of an agricultural worker.
       The value of the mina is calculated at 1.25 pounds, or 0.571
kilograms per mina (18.358 troy ounces). In modern values, the silver
mina would equal $110.10, and the gold mina $6,422.50.

> Now let's look at a Mishnah

"A Mishnah"? What's "A Mishnah"? and what "Mishnah" are we looking at?

> from Kethuboth 11a:
> " MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN (7) HAS HAD SEXUAL
> INTERCOURSE WITH (8) A LITTLE GIRL, (9) OR WHEN A SMALL
> BOY (10) HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP WOMAN, OR
> [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF
> WOOD (11) — [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO
> HUNDRED [ZUZ] … "
> — Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kethuboth 11a

The Text:

BT Ketuvot 11b (The citation mentioned is evidently in error.)

"Rav Yehudah said in the name of Rav: A male child who has relations
with a female adult causes her to be like one who was injured with a
stick... Rava said: This is what was meant - an adult male who has
relations with a female child has not done anything because less than
this [three years old] is like sticking a finger into an eyeball."

> Let's review the above-cited Mishnah:

Hah.

> There is no prohibition on sexual activity between adults and
> young children

Twaddle.

To those unused to these Talmudic discussions, the discussion here
relates to the dowry for virgins and non-virgins. A virgin receives a
higher dowry. While the tell-tale sign of virginity is the release of
blood due to the breaking of the hyman on the wedding night, there are
occasions when the hyman has already been broken such as when the
woman suffered an injury. The Talmud here adds that a sexual act with
a male minor is not considered to be a loss of virginity because one
of the participants is not fully active. While the female's hyman may
have been broken, she has not engaged in what can be classified as a
sexual act (although it is certainly child abuse).

The Talmud continues that a sexual act between a male adult and a
female under the age of three is also not considered a loss of
virginity (although it is child abuse). Since the girl is too young
for her hyman to be broken, she is still considered a virgin.

Nowhere is the Talmud permitting such behavior, as is this obvious
case of child abuse. The Talmud is only discussing ex post facto what
would happen if such a case arose.

The Talmud states that at the age of three a girl is capable of
participating in a sexual act. However, that act is not permissible.
See also YT Ketuvot 1:2 (4b).

Real terrible, huh? Not blaming the victim, the horror, the horror.

> " Religion in the Talmud attempts to penetrate the whole of
> human life with the sense of law and right. Nothing human is
> in its eyes mean or trivial; everything is regulated and
> sanctified by religion. Religious precept and duty accompany
> man from his earliest years to the grave and beyond it.
> They guide his desires and actions at every moment. "
> —  Rabbi Dr. Hertz (38)

> Thus, if the Talmud permits girls three years old and younger
> to be sexually used by adults,

It doesn't,

There are many lies circulating the internet about the Jewish Talmud.
These allegations are purportedly supported by "direct quotations"
that are frequently and intentionally wrong. However, since most
people lack the scholarly background to verify these claims, they have
no way of knowing that these accusation are false and malicious.

"Our philosophy asserts that every human being is created in the image
of the Lord and the primacy of integrity and honesty in all dealings
without exception. I strongly repudiate any assertions in the name of
Judaism that do not represent and reflect this philosophy."
- R Malkiel Kotler, dean of Lakewood Yeshiva, 16th Dec 2003

> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

was a novelist.

> These Jewish, Rothschild funded Bolsheviks
> would go on in the course of history to slaughter 60 million
> Christians and non-Jews in Soviet controlled territory.
> 60 Million !

60 Million! That's quite a load of Bullshit!

> Here below are just a few of the outrageous satanic
> beliefs

Read: antisemitic twaddle.

>(Talmud / Kabbalah) :
> 1) Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Wrong. Evidently this poster is unaware that the Talmud is not
Kabbalah.

> 2) O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

It isn't. See # 4).

> 3) Jews Have Superior Legal Status

They don't.

> 4) Jews May Steal From Non-Jews

Wrong.

The Accusation
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews, Baba Mezia 24a. (Affirmed also in Baba
Kamma 113b).

The passage in Bava Metzia 24a does not deal with theft but with
returning lost objects.

"Anyone who steals even a minor amount violates the prohibition of
[Leviticus 19:11] "You shall not steal" and is required to repay [the
amount stolen] whether one steals from a Jew or a gentile."
Shulchan Aruch,Choshen Mishpat 348,2

"It is forbidden to rob or to cheat even a minor amount from either a
Jew or a gentile."
R. Shlomo Gantzfried, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch, 182,1
Shulchan Aruch Choshen Mishpat 359,1

"And it is biblically forbidden to steal even a minor amount; even a
gentile - it is forbidden to steal from him or to cheat him. And if
you stole from him or cheated him you must return the stolen money or
object."
Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Gezeilah 1,2

"Maimonides of blessed memory wrote that if one lies in his measures
and thereby overcharges even to an idolatrous gentile one violates a
negative commandment and must return the money. Similarly, it is
forbidden to mislead the gentiles in calculating prices as it says
[Leviticus 25:50] "he shall make a reckoning with his purchaser" even
if he is subjugated to your authority; even more so if the gentile is
not subjugated to your authority and it says [Deuteronomy 25:16] "For
an abomination to the Lord, you G-d, are all who do this."
Sefer HaChinuch, 259

"My son, it says [Leviticus 19:13] "You shall not cheat your fellow
and you shall not steal…" Your fellow is like your brother and your
brother is like your fellow. You learn from here that it is forbidden
to steal from a gentile because it is theft, and it need not be said
that theft from your brother is forbidden."
Tanna Devei Eliyahu 16

"It is worse to steal from a gentile than from a Jew because of
desecration of [G-d's] name."
Tosefta Bava Kamma 10,8

> 5) Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Wrong. Robbing gentiles is absolutely forbidden, and in no way does
the Talmud permit or encourage killing gentiles. Rather, it strictly
forbids killing anyone, Jew or gentile.

> 6) Jews May Lie To Non-Jews

"As Shmuel said: It is forbidden to deceive anyone, even an idolatrous
gentile."
BT Chullin 94a

"And similiarly, lies, tricks, subterfuges, cheatings, and
circumventions of gentiles are forbidden. They said [as quoted above]
'It is forbidden to deceive anyone, even an idolatrous gentile' and
even more so when it can lead to the desecration of G-d's name. For
that is a great sin and imbues in a person bad traits. And all these
wicked actions G-d explained that He will be disgusted with them and
with those who perform them, as it says: (Deuteronomy 18:12) "For
anyone who does these is an abomination of G-d."
Maimonides, Commentary to the Mishnah, Keilim 12,7

> 7) Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Wrong.

"Not only Israel, but also all of the other nations, have the
potential to reach the highest levels because they were created in the
image of G-d. How wonderful are the words of the Tana devei Eliyahu,
which says: I bear witness before heaven and earth, that Jew or
Gentile, man or woman, slave or maidservant, all receive holy
revelation according to their actions."
Torat Avraham, 139

> Abodah Zarah 22a-22b
> "Those who read the New Testament
> will have no portion in the world
> to come"

"Righteous gentiles have a place in the world to come."
Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Teshuvah 3,4 Tosefta Sanhedrin
13,1; Talmud Sanhedrin 105a

"Rabbi Yirmiyah would say: We see from here that even a gentile who
fulfills his laws is like a high priest."
Midrash Sifra, Acharei Mot 9,13

"Do not regard anyone with contempt, and do not reject anything, for
there is no man who does not have his hour and nothing that does not
have its place."
Talmud Avot 4,3

"[Rabbi Akiva] would say: 'Beloved is man who was created in the
divine image. An extra amount of love is given to him because he was
created in the divine image as it says (Genesis 9:6) "For in the image
of G-d He made man."'"
Talmud Avot 3,14

"Rabbi Meir would say: 'How do we know that even a gentile who engages
in the study of Torah is like a high priest? We learn from the verse
(Leviticus 18:5) "which man (HaAdam = the man) shall do [study] and by
which he shall live [in the afterlife]."'"
BT Avodah Zarah 3a

>The Talmud (Kabbalah)

The Talmud is not kabbalah. And this poster is obviously no sage.