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Re: [PROPOSAL] Create moderated version of ba.broadcast, ba.broadcast.moderated [LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS]

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From: Colonel Jake
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:07
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"Mark Roberts" <babcast@cosmos-monitor.com> wrote in message
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: For your newsgroups file:
: ba.broadcast.moderated          Bay Area TV/Radio issues.
(Moderated)
:
:
: From the original 1992 ba.broadcast charter by Eliot Lear
: <lear@yeager.corp.sgi.com>:
:
: "This group is here for discussions, comments and program reminders
: about broadcast media in the San Francisco Bay Area, both radio and
: television.  It also includes cable systems and TVRO/BCRO in the SF
: Bay Area.  It does not include scanner, ham radio or other action
: here in the SF Bay Area; these may be addressed in another
: newsgroup at another time.  Issues of national interest should be
: posted to one of the groups in rec.arts.tv or rec.radio."
:
:
: Proposed 2009 updates to original ba.broadcast charter for
: ba.broadcast.moderated:
:
: The purpose of the newsgroup is to discuss the practice of
: broadcasting, including programming, sales and management,
: engineering, broadcast technology, and emerging trends and
: technologies in broadcasting and related media.
:
: This group is intended as a moderated alternative to the existing
: newsgroup ba.broadcast.  Moderation will be utilized to enforce
: civil tone and on-topic content, including rejection of
: inappropriate articles, and closing of existing threads if they
: become sufficiently uncivil or off-topic.  Uncivil tone includes
: insults, name-calling, and other ad-hominem attacks.  Off-topic
: content includes that not reasonably related to the practice of
: broadcasting in the Bay Area.  For example, articles that discuss
: how a radio host runs his or her show would be considered on-topic.
: Articles that are entirely about the contents of radio or TV shows
: (except in those instances where the subject matter is actually
: about radio or TV) would be considered off-topic.  Such articles
: should instead be submitted to alternative forums.
:
: In addition, the following are prohibited:
:
:  * Chain letters.
:  * Posts in HTML.
:  * SPAM.
:  * Binaries, apart from PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other
:    ancillary article meta-data.
:  * Forgery of valid e-mail addresses.
:  * Excessive morphing/nym-shifting.
:  * Copyright violations.  Pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. on
:    this topic are welcome but are required to comply with fair use
:    standards.
:  * Personal attacks and flames, as defined by the moderation team.
:  * Links to "objectionable" web content, including pornographic
sites,
:    sites encouraging illegal activities, or sites deemed
unacceptable
:    by the moderation team.  The moderation team will cursorily check
:    the contents of specific links to confirm on-topic content, but
:    acceptance for posting does not imply endorsement or approval of
:    the entire present or future contents of that web site.
:  * Discussion of moderation decisions.  See below for information
:    on appealing moderator action.
:
: Summary of Discussion:
:
: Discussion in both ba.config and ba.broadcast brought forth the
: following arguments for and against the creation of
: ba.broadcast.moderated:
:
: FOR:
: * Absence of personal attacks on individual posters
: * Posts would be more likely to be on-topic
: * Fewer off-topic posts (a/k/a "noise") would appear
: * More professionals working in the business will participate in
:   the moderated newsgroup
:
: AGAINST:
: * Concern that a moderator would use the moderated newsgroup to
:   answer criticism made in the unmoderated newsgroup
: * Censorship
:
: Straw Poll:
:
: FOR:
: Angie Coiro <angiecoiro@yahoo.com>
: Copie <copieco@hotmail.com
: John Higdon <higgy@kome.com>
: Phil Kane <phil.kane@nov.shmovz.ka.pop>
: David Kaye <sfdavidkaye@yahoo.com
: Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
: Mark Roberts <babcast@cosmos-monitor.com>
: Paul W. Schleck <pschleck@novia.net>
: Stratum101 <j.collier@cross-comp.com>
: Mike Ward <mward@iname-remove-this-part.com>
:
: AGAINST:
: Bozo <Bozo_De_Niro@37.com>
: Colonel Jake <SergeantYork@comcast.net>
: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> (footnote #1)
:
: Footnote:
: 1: as expressed in ba.broadcast
:
: Implementation and management of this new newsgroup:
:
: If approved by the readership, the new newsgroup will be created by
: a standard, PGP-signed, Usenet newgroup control message sent by the
: Bay-Area Managed Hierarchy (ba.*) Administrator, Ron Escheverri:
:
: http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/index.py?see=BA
:
: Usenet sites that accept such control messages automatically will
: create the newsgroup immediately.  Readers at other sites are
: requested to ask their local administrators to create the new
: newsgroup manually after the newgroup control message is posted.
: The moderation team will be available to assist with this.
:
: In order to minimize duplication of articles, and encourage wider
: propagation of the new moderated newsgroup, simultaneous
: crossposting between ba.broadcast and ba.broadcast.moderated will
: be encouraged.
:
: Participation in this simultaneous crossposting scheme is
: completely voluntary.  Posters of initial articles in threads will
: make the voluntary choice to add ba.broadcast.moderated and one
: other unmoderated newsgroup to the Newsgroups line when posting.
: Those following up to these crossposted threads will make a
: voluntary choice whether to keep ba.broadcast.moderated or any
: other newsgroup on the Newsgroups line, or remove them.  Followups
: may be directed by default to any subset of the newsgroups on the
: Newsgroups line (or via E-mail to "poster") by specifying them on
: an appropriate Followup-To line.  In short, the readers will
: control what they post, where they post it, and what default
: destinations they want for any followups.  This proposed
: crossposting scheme does not change any of these long-standing
: features of Usenet and newsreader software.
:
: The ba.broadcast.moderated moderation team will use the Secure,
: Team-Based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP) to manage the
: newsgroup:
:
: http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/stump/
:
: To reduce the risks of technical problems and delayed or lost
: articles during this proposed newsgroup's startup, the moderation
: team will set up initial moderation services at Public-Access
: Internet and Unix, New York City (Panix):
:
: http://www.panix.com
:
: for the cost of $100/year.  Panix already hosts several other
: Usenet newsgroup moderation teams running STUMP. Members of the
: consultation team below will assist with this initial installation.
:
: Services in the Bay area were evaluated, but the team felt that
: they could not be stood up quickly enough, offer necessary
: technical features such as installed software tools and web site
: hosting like Panix, be cost-competitive with Panix, be as reliable
: as Panix, or offer technical support as responsive as Panix.
: Starting up at Panix for the first year will give us 12 months of
: breathing room, and a reliable backup, while we continue to seek
: out and evaluate Bay-area alternatives for moderation software
: hosting.  Further suggestions about reliable Unix-shell Internet
: account services in the Bay area that could meet our technical
: requirements and budget would be welcome.
:
: The STUMP robot (or "'bot") will scan all submitted posts.  Each
: post will be either automatically approved, rejected, or sent to
: the moderators for manual review.  The moderator 'bot will enforce
: the following guidelines:
:
:  * Postings must be in plain text. In particular no HTML or mixed
text
:    and HTML posts will be allowed.  Messages that are
:    multipart/alternative will be automatically filtered to pass just
:    the text/plain version to the newsgroup.
:
:  * No binary postings of any sort will be accepted.  Exceptions will
be
:    made for cryptographic signatures and such.
:
:  * Messages must not continue a thread that has been "closed" by the
:    moderators.
:
: Posts rejected by the bot or by a moderator will be returned to the
: poster via e-mail. Moderators may at their option include an
: explanation for rejection of the post.
:
: Individual posters may be temporarily banned for consistently
: violating the group charter.  Posters who feel that their posts
: have been unfairly rejected or banned, either for specific content
: or by a specific moderator, may appeal the decision.  They may do
: so by writing the moderation team at the Administrative Contact
: address below.  The moderation team will discuss and vote on the
: appeal and respond within 14 days if the appeal is successful.  The
: moderation team will also reply within 14 days to unsuccessful
: submitters of any appeal that is on-topic, reasoned, civilly stated,
: and is not substantially an attempt to revisit the subject matter
and
: arguments of a previous unsuccessful appeal.
:
: Multiple temporary bans, attempting to circumvent the ban, or abuse
: of the appeal system may result in a permanent ban.
:
:
: Initial Moderation Team:
:
: Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
: Mark Roberts <babcast@cosmos-monitor.com>
: John Higdon  <higgy@kome.com>
:
:
: Temporary Volunteer Moderators:
:
: (These temporary volunteers have agreed to serve for the first 6-12
: months of the newsgroup's life, during which time a list of
: pre-approved or "white-listed" users will be built based on
: approved submissions, and additional moderators will be recruited
: from the Bay-Area broadcast community.)
:
: Steve Bonine <spb@pobox.com> (Moderator of news.groups.proposals)
: Kathy Morgan <kmorgan@aptalaska.net> (Co-Chair of Big-8 Board)
:
:
: Consultants:
:
: Paul W. Schleck <pschleck@novia.net>
: Phil Kane       <phil.kane@nov.shmovz.ka.pop>
:
:
: Article Submissions:      ba-broadcast-moderated@panix.com
: Administrative Contact:   ba-broadcast-moderated-request@panix.com
:
:
: Proponent:
:
: Mark Roberts <babcast@cosmos-monitor.com>
:
:
: Change History:
:
: 2009-05-30     1st RFD
: 2009-06-10     Posted to ba.broadcast and ba.config
: 2009-06-13     Reposted to ba.broadcast and ba.config due to an
effort
:                by "Colonel Jake", SergeantYork@comcast.net, to
cancel the post
: 2009-06-17     2nd RFD/Last Call for Comments
:
: -- 
: Mark Roberts
:

I got this?,
"BIG-GIANT-URGE!!!,...., toO [CMSG] Create moderated version
of ba.broadcast, ba.broadcast.moderated [LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS],
in a new poastings Subject field!!!..."

What do you?,
"Think about that?!?!?! (Mark Roberts)..."

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From: "Colonel Jake" <SergeantYork@comcast.net>
Newsgroups: ba.config
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Create moderated version of ba.broadcast, ba.broadcast.moderated [LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS]
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