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ba.booze?
#140
Author: Meg Worley
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:00
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So, nearly half of the threads on ba.food these days are about
drinking, and several folks (lurkers and regs, both) have expressed
by email the wish that those silly boozy threads would just go 
away.  I think there is demonstrated interest, particularly in
light not only of the number of drunks like myself in ba.* but
also of the number of wine-country enquiries.

Consequently, I'd like to suggest a ba.* group dedicated to
the hard stuff.  I don't have strong feelings about the name,
except that I hate the rec.food.drink model and would prefer
something that is a sibling to ba.food.  

What do y'all think?  Rone?

[xposted to ba.food & ba.config; followups to the latter]



Rage away,

meg

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meg@steam.stanford.edu                  Comparatively Literate
Re: ba.booze?
#141
Author: Bob R. Kenyon
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:00
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In article <397E76C9.94F0E25F@austin.rr.com>, Steve Wertz 
<swertz@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> Meg Worley wrote:
> 
> > What do y'all think?  Rone?
> 
> Friggen alcoholics.  I'm certainly game!  I can offer spots to
> buy any liquor or Belgain Ale within 50 miles of BA.

Liquor? Sure! I'd vote for that.

> A new ba.* group after all these years.  Wow.  Where's Eugene?

We got ba.personals a few years ago. Took the heat off of ba.singles, 
but then all the fun people left and now it's just a wasteland...

-- 
Bob R. Kenyon
Beautiful Downtown San Jose, CA
<http://www.bobrk.com/>
Re: ba.booze?
#142
Author: Steve Wertz
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:00
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Meg Worley wrote:

> What do y'all think?  Rone?

Friggen alcoholics.  I'm certainly game!  I can offer spots to
buy any liquor or Belgain Ale within 50 miles of BA.

A new ba.* group after all these years.  Wow.  Where's Eugene?

-sw
Re: ba.booze?
#143
Author: Aahz Maruch
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:00
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In article <397E76C9.94F0E25F@austin.rr.com>,
Steve Wertz  <swertz@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>Meg Worley wrote:
>>
>> What do y'all think?  Rone?
>
>A new ba.* group after all these years.  Wow.  Where's Eugene?

He's still around, he just turned ba.* over to Rone whasisslastname, uh
Echevarri?
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Re: ba.booze?
#144
Author: Karen Anderson O'Mara
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:00
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"Bob R. Kenyon" wrote:

> We got ba.personals a few years ago. Took the heat off of ba.singles,
> but then all the fun people left and now it's just a wasteland...

It may be a wasteland but there are still some fun people there, like
me, for instance.

So there.

Karen
Re: ba.booze?
#145
Author: Charlotte L. Blackmer
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:00
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Ba.food added back in to followups.  I can read replies in either.

In article <8llbmo$nfe@steam.stanford.edu>,
Meg Worley <meg@steam.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>So, nearly half of the threads on ba.food these days are about
>drinking, and several folks (lurkers and regs, both) have expressed
>by email the wish that those silly boozy threads would just go 
>away.  I think there is demonstrated interest, particularly in
>light not only of the number of drunks like myself in ba.* but
>also of the number of wine-country enquiries.
>
>Consequently, I'd like to suggest a ba.* group dedicated to
>the hard stuff.  I don't have strong feelings about the name,
>except that I hate the rec.food.drink model and would prefer
>something that is a sibling to ba.food.  

Well, I'd certainly be interested in participating in any such group, but
I am wondering why people who aren't interested in reading about, say,
bourbon or aperitifs or the wine country are doing reading threads with
said titles.  I mean, I'm not particularly interested in random South Bay
or Peninsula restaurant reviews since I neither live nor work down there,
but I just zap the threads that look like they're about them.  

For me, it's part of the dining experience usually - I don't want to feel
obligated in some way to discuss the food one place and the wine or bar in
another.  And sometimes going out for drinks (and maybe some nice snacky
things) is fun.  (Actually the only time I was in Masa's was with some
women friends, at the bar.  The cocktails were not the greatest I have
had, but the price was good and the bartender comped us a round.) 

I like the give and take in ba.food.  Mind you, I think any
"spinoff" would probably be interesting, but at the end of the day I'm
wondering if this is a split that needs to happen.

CLB
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Charlotte L. Blackmer       <http://www.rahul.net/clb>
Berkeley Farm and Pleasure Palace (under construction)
Junk (esp. commercial) email review rates:  $250 US ea
Re: ba.booze?
#146
Author: chester at chesternet dot org Ch...
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:00
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In ba.food "Charlotte L. Blackmer" <clb@rahul.net> wrote:
>I like the give and take in ba.food.  Mind you, I think any
>"spinoff" would probably be interesting, but at the end of the day I'm
>wondering if this is a split that needs to happen.

I don't think so.  Even with all the tangential threads, ba.food isn't
a terribly voluminous group anyway.  And I find the variety
interesting.

Anyway, I don't see why drinks don't fit under the ba.food umbrella.
And I really don't think there would be enough interest for a separate
group, seeing as how these thread clusters tend to ebb and flow.

Chester
Re: ba.booze?
#150
Author: Steve Wertz
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:00
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Chester wrote:

> Anyway, I don't see why drinks don't fit under the ba.food umbrella.
> And I really don't think there would be enough interest for a separate
> group, seeing as how these thread clusters tend to ebb and flow.

On second thought, I kind of agree.  booze isn't really a regional
thing, and even the ba.wineries aren't discussed much here, either.
A rare, polite cross-post to be.general and ba.food doesn't attract
much attention.  I hear ba.wineries spoekn of more in other regional
food
groups.

OTOH, I would like to find the 12-year old 100 proof Canadian Club
that has only been spotted at the duty-free shops in LA and SF 
airports.  I'd also like to find Rock and Rye. It has large peices of
fruit in the bottle (how do they get that in there, anyway?  Dehydrated,
perhaps?).  It's a drink I remember from my childhood.

And the _best_ Belgian Ale selection in the ba.* is at 41st Ave Liquors
in Capoitola.  Over 25 kinds, at last count, and they have the newer
Delirium Noctorum there, too (from Huyghe - The infamous Pink Elephant).
Unibrou has just released a trippel, something like "Deuce de Deu" here
in the states, but it's not quite as good as La Fin du Monde (you may
find that at Whole Foods).

Now that I've got that out of my system (at 1oz per hour), I probably
would not subscribe to ba.booze.  It would ruin my reputation if I were 
seen posting there too often <cough>.

-sw
Re: ba.booze?
#151
Author: shenanigander
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:00
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In article <8lmp0j$7e6$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>,
Aahz Maruch <aahz@netcom.com> wrote:
>In article <397E76C9.94F0E25F@austin.rr.com>,
>Steve Wertz  <swertz@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>Meg Worley wrote:
>>> What do y'all think?  Rone?
>>A new ba.* group after all these years.  Wow.  Where's Eugene?
>He's still around, he just turned ba.* over to Rone whasisslastname, uh
>Echeverri?

Eugene turned it over to me over two years ago, and i've been doing a
perfectly dreadful job of administering it (other than some subtly
implied threats).

A group purely devoted to alcoholic beverages might be a good idea.
Wine with food is one thing, but perhaps someone wants to discuss
setting up a still, or merely mock Gordon Biersch's swill.  These
probably lie outside of ba.food's scope (unless you'd also like to
mock GB's food).

However, i'm undecided.  So i leave it up to you, the ba.foodies and
other interested parties, to sway me.  A nice pinot noir, or perhaps a
six-pack of pilsner, might do.

rone
-- 
WILL BATMAN TAKE PORT OUT, STARBOARD HOME, OR WILL HE STAY FOR UNLAWFUL CARNAL
KNOWLEDGE?  WILL ROBIN ESCAPE THE CLUTCHES OF THE DASTARDLY FOLK ETYMOLOGER OR
WILL HE BE FORCED TO READ WILLIAM SAFIRE'S OLD NIXON SPEECHES?		- Kibo
Re: ba.booze?
#152
Author: Bob R. Kenyon
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:00
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In article <397F0C6A.39317EF1@randomgraphics.com>, 
karen@randomgraphics.com wrote:

> "Bob R. Kenyon" wrote:
> 
> > We got ba.personals a few years ago. Took the heat off of ba.singles,
> > but then all the fun people left and now it's just a wasteland...
> 
> It may be a wasteland but there are still some fun people there, like
> me, for instance.

Oh, I know. I still read it. Just don't post as much any more.

> So there.

I hope you don't think I was implying that you were part of the waste?

-- 
Bob R. Kenyon
Beautiful Downtown San Jose, CA
<http://www.bobrk.com/>
Re: ba.booze?
#153
Author: Karen Anderson O'Mara
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:00
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"Bob R. Kenyon" wrote:

> I hope you don't think I was implying that you were part of the waste?

Gosh, no, anyway, I think the waste is a mirage...

If there's a ba.booze someday, I'd be happy to subscribe and listen, and
supply plenty of Irish jokes (if Will will let me).

Karen
Re: ba.booze?
#154
Author: Mark Mellin
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:00
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> In article <tzFf5.42$R87.4980@sjc-read>,  <dkeisen@best.com> wrote:
> >
> >I will vote NO on this when there is a call for votes, if it gets
> >that far.

   I would cast a YES vote for something along the lines of ba.spirits
(granted, not the perfect word choice, but it looks better archived than
ba.booze) if the liquor threads in ba.food are truly unavoidable and
bothering others.  

But then, in article <8lnbi0$6fl$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
aahz@netcom.com (Aahz Maruch) responds:
> You seem to have confused ba.* with the Big-8.  There is no CFV here.
> The ba.* czar creates and removes groups by fiat, though almost always
> with consensus from interested parties.

   Ah, so there is a [regional] Cabal! 

   In any case, I like Ms. O'Mara's notion of including bar humor in the
charter.  Why, I'm reminded of that hilarious joke about the three thirsty
strings that go into a ba#%$&###

NO CARRIER
Re: ba.booze?
#155
Author: Steve Fenwick
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:00
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In article <rone.8lopf6$jef$1@ennui.org>, "shenanigander" 
<^#*&$@ennui.org> wrote:

> In article <8lmp0j$7e6$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Aahz Maruch <aahz@netcom.com> wrote:
> >In article <397E76C9.94F0E25F@austin.rr.com>,
> >Steve Wertz  <swertz@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >>Meg Worley wrote:
> >>> What do y'all think?  Rone?
> >>A new ba.* group after all these years.  Wow.  Where's Eugene?
> >He's still around, he just turned ba.* over to Rone whasisslastname, uh
> >Echeverri?
> 
> Eugene turned it over to me over two years ago, and i've been doing a
> perfectly dreadful job of administering it (other than some subtly
> implied threats).
> 
> A group purely devoted to alcoholic beverages might be a good idea.
> Wine with food is one thing, but perhaps someone wants to discuss
> setting up a still, or merely mock Gordon Biersch's swill.  These
> probably lie outside of ba.food's scope (unless you'd also like to
> mock GB's food).
> 
> However, i'm undecided.  So i leave it up to you, the ba.foodies and
> other interested parties, to sway me.  A nice pinot noir, or perhaps a
> six-pack of pilsner, might do.
> 
> rone

How about ba.drink, to nicely complement ba.food? The charter could 
include all sorts of ba-related beverage issues, not just >X proof 
profferings.

Steve

-- 
Steve Fenwick                                          abuse@w0x0f.com
ba.booze? *bzz*
#157
Author: shenanigander
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:00
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In article <abuse-14C75F.01262928072000@news.apple.com>,
Steve Fenwick  <abuse@w0x0f.com> wrote:
>> However, i'm undecided.  So i leave it up to you, the ba.foodies and
>> other interested parties, to sway me.  A nice pinot noir, or perhaps a
>> six-pack of pilsner, might do.

>How about ba.drink, to nicely complement ba.food? The charter could 
>include all sorts of ba-related beverage issues, not just >X proof 
>profferings.

(arggh, Sancho, you posted AND emailed me!)

I can't find a charter for ba.food; the only newgroup archived at
ftp.isc.org is bodyless and was issued in 1992.

Anyway, nobody's sprung forward with gifts, so, in my fickle grandeur,
i'm going to decline ba.{liquid-repast}.  If ba.food readers consider
the volume too high, well, la-de-da.  Where are all those people now?

rone
-- 
WILL BATMAN TAKE PORT OUT, STARBOARD HOME, OR WILL HE STAY FOR UNLAWFUL CARNAL
KNOWLEDGE?  WILL ROBIN ESCAPE THE CLUTCHES OF THE DASTARDLY FOLK ETYMOLOGER OR
WILL HE BE FORCED TO READ WILLIAM SAFIRE'S OLD NIXON SPEECHES?		- Kibo
Re: ba.booze? *bzz*
#158
Author: Meg Worley
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:00
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ronerites:
>I can't find a charter for ba.food; the only newgroup archived at
>ftp.isc.org is bodyless and was issued in 1992.

Ooh, ba.bodyless -- I like it!  Snodfart's not picking it
up though; I'll have to Have A Word with Russki.

>Anyway, nobody's sprung forward with gifts, so, in my fickle grandeur,
>i'm going to decline ba.{liquid-repast}.  If ba.food readers consider
>the volume too high, well, la-de-da.  Where are all those people now?

Danged if I know -- they had their chance.  I pitched the
ball for 'em, it's their problem if they flinched away and/or
took wild swings.  Now back to our usual delightful badinage.



Rage away,

meg

-- 
meg@steam.stanford.edu                  Comparatively Literate
Re: ba.booze? *bzz*
#159
Author: Bob R. Kenyon
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:00
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In article <8lsl12$ica@steam.stanford.edu>, meg@steam.stanford.edu (Meg 
Worley) wrote:

> ronerites:
> >Anyway, nobody's sprung forward with gifts, so, in my fickle grandeur,
> >i'm going to decline ba.{liquid-repast}.  If ba.food readers consider
> >the volume too high, well, la-de-da.  Where are all those people now?
> 
> Danged if I know -- they had their chance.  I pitched the
> ball for 'em, it's their problem if they flinched away and/or
> took wild swings.  Now back to our usual delightful badinage.

If you're talking about me, which I doubt but I'll blather on anyway, I 
liked the sound of ba.booze, but that's about it. I figure anything we 
can put in our mouths (to eat, silly) is game for discussion here.

But I've never thought the booze discussion level was too high.

-- 
Bob R. Kenyon
Beautiful Downtown San Jose, CA
<http://www.bobrk.com/>
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