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Re: Welcome to ba.gardens.unmoderated

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From: Neefer Duir
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 00:00
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Not so long ago and not so far away,
Meg Worley <meg@Steam.Stanford.EDU> didst sayeth:
>Uh, unless I'm wildly mistaken -- and it has happened --
>this is an unmoderated group.  There isn't a "person who
>runs ba.*" (that I know for sure).  While we certainly
>want nothing but on-topic noncommercial posts (I disagree
>moderately strongly about the no-xpost-ever thang), this
>is an unmoderated group, and we can't do much about stuff
>we don't like, aside from cleanfeed.

Well, yes and no.  Does this group have a charter?  

In misc.fitness.* (not a regional group), we do have some recourse
wrt massive crossposting, commercial posts, pornography spam, and
off-topic posting.  Because we have a charter, we appeal to providers
about problem posters.  That works quite often, but when it doesn't we
escalate the appeals (pathetic pleas might be more accurate) and have 
made appeals all the way up to MCI and Sprint, the major news carriers, 
about problem posters and their unresponsive providers.  MCI and Sprint 
have been sympathetic, and I suspect, they do not like to get 100s of
e-mails from misc.fitness.* readers.

I don't know how regional groups are created.  My experience is with a 
big 5 group (misc.fitness.*) which must have a charter, go thru the 
voting process, and be approved before it is propagated.  And while
there isn't an individual who is in charge, there is a form of
oversight.  Of course, none of that may be relevent to the regional
groups.
-- 
Jennifer in California    | Courage is not the absence of fear, 
oa ktr ee@ wi pd . c o m  | but rather the judgment that something 
                          | else is more important than fear. 
                          | -Ambrose Redmoon
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Subject: Re: Welcome to ba.gardens.unmoderated
Date: 1998/11/05
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