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Ronnen Levinson <rmlevinson@lbl.gov> wrote:

>Hi.
>
>Could anyone tell me how to create a new "ba" newsgroup?  I'd like to
>start "ba.lindy" for the discussion of Lindy Hop dancing in the San
>Francisco Bay Area.  It would be nice to have a group separate from
>ba.dance due to the high volume of Lindy-Hop discussion currently
>carried on several e-mail lists.

I suspect that should be ba.dance.lindy  ...  While I'm not familiar with
ba.news specific group creation protocols, nor am I familiar with lindy-hop
dancing, I'd wonder if you couldn't at least generalize this to something like
ba.dance.swing or whatever that would meet a bit wider of a demand.  Newsgroups
once created exist globally forever (yes, even ba. groups need to be carried
globally since most folks read news via national ISPs these days).

You might peruse the FAQ's on news.admin relating to group creation guidelines.


The general procedure is to write up a "Request For Comment" (RFC), post it
several times in various appropriate places, compile and digest the comments,
then if the spin is favorable to post a "Call For Votes" (CFV) which has to
follow a specific protocol.  If and only if it meets the generally agreed
criteria for acceptance, you then approach whomever is the config-wiz of the ba
heirarchy and they issue the magic 'newgroup' command.  If you are really lucky,
about 1/5th of the news servers might pick up on this and carry it.  It usually
takes a concerted effort over the period of about a year to really establish a
group with good propagation.

good luck.

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In article <3694e568.73825805@news.scruz.net>, antispam@here.not (john r
pierce) wrote:

> I suspect that should be ba.dance.lindy

I agree.

>  ...  While I'm not familiar with
> ba.news specific group creation protocols, nor am I familiar with lindy-hop
> dancing, I'd wonder if you couldn't at least generalize this to something like
> ba.dance.swing or whatever that would meet a bit wider of a demand.  

Nodding.

> You might peruse the FAQ's on news.admin relating to group creation 
> guidelines.

The specifics won't be useful here.
  
> The general procedure is to write up a "Request For Comment" (RFC), post it
> several times in various appropriate places, compile and digest the comments,
> then if the spin is favorable to post a "Call For Votes" (CFV) which has to
> follow a specific protocol.  If and only if it meets the generally agreed
> criteria for acceptance, you then approach whomever is the config-wiz of
the ba
> heirarchy and they issue the magic 'newgroup' command.  If you are really
lucky,
> about 1/5th of the news servers might pick up on this and carry it.  It
usually
> takes a concerted effort over the period of about a year to really establish a
> group with good propagation.

This is only for the big 8 (or whatever the number is these days).  The
smaller hierarchies are very different.

Ba.* works as follows.  You post here with your proposal (actually, you
should post to ba.news.group...not sure why).  Ron sees and says if he
likes it.  If he likes it, you write a charter for your proposed group. 
When the charter is to his liking, he creates the group.  Propagation will
indeed take a while.  This is how I started ba.gardens a few months ago.

Ron should be poking his head in here sooner or later....

Cyndi

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