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20111212 @ ~11:07 hrs.

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javachip: womack
javachip: please shed your opinion on drones?
javachip: and what Iran should do?
CptCaveman: The 'lost' drone was an intentional ploy by the US. Now
there will be demands, chest-beating, an intentionally ill-thought
attempt at forceful recovery, retaliations for that, and a slow
excalation to a point where the US can plausibly bomb selected nuclear
targets. But full scale war won't be entered into until after the 2012
elections, so the next administration will have to deal with it.
awesome: you mean Obama isn't planning to be reelected?
awesome: sorry, didin't read all... :(
Marathon: iran could claim the operators of the drone violated their
airspace, so a forceful recovery would be hard to justify.
womack: Oh, hi there, jchip. In the old senses of the words, drones
better than predators which are better than malignancies
womack: HenKi & his boyz Obomber, SonnaBush, Clintonz et Al =
malignancies threatening the life of our human race.
womack: Competent observers realize that US war against Arabs &
Muslims = a total fraud from the beginning, mark date 1990.
womack: One can say "USraeli", to put it mildly.
womack: Iran should invite Gideon Polya PhD of Melbourne to visit with
honors. GP came up with the estimate of 12 million murders by USGov
since 1990.
javachip: sorry
javachip: i was working it's 4am over here
javachip: still working ^^
womack: Iran also extend invites to Mel Gibson, Oliver Stone, James
Cameron & a few other directors of integrity to create documentaries
on modern history
womack: For examples, DVD's on HenKi & Aerial Shaboom concocting the
9/11 Stunt & their precedecessors Bernard Baruch & David Ben Gurion
fixing the hit on JFK
womack: Audiences all over our Planet are ready for such dramatic
truthfulness
womack: IMHO President Ahmadinejad needs to get over his "monotheism"
and speak rather of law & facts.
javachip: womack are you religious?
womack: wait 1
womack: The Divine Cactus    http://tinyurl.com/5t5xl32
womack: I have proposed new org for ceremonies provisionally to be
called the "Humane Rite".
womack: jchip or lurkers to offer their religious POV's ?
javachip: hmmmmmm
javachip: i didn't click on it
javachip: i'll click on it now
javachip: but i'm guessing it's peyote button?
womack: LOL
javachip: are you a follower of Castaneda?
womack: other way around
womack: Aldous Huxley was earlier & better w his DOORS OF PERCEPTIONl
womack: Have you ever heard of "Judge Dee", jchip, anyone ?
javachip: Aldous Huxley did peyote?
javachip: care to explain?
javachip: every been in an isolation tank womack?
womack: For free? Would a drunk tank do?
womack: jchip was in I-tank?
javachip: i have
javachip: i've done long periods of meditation before too
javachip: fasting too
womack: How many times, how long in I-tank?
javachip: i did about 2 hours for about 2 weeks
womack: 14 X 2 hrs each?
javachip: yes
javachip: i must say of all those "arts" *if you can call them that
womack: Sounds like you might enjoy meeting the cactus
javachip: fasting had the most powerful effect
thecmvick: effect of becoming closer to death?
javachip: i don't know how to put it womack
javachip: but the "veil"?
javachip: gets lifted a bit
womack: Have to fast for a long time to reach such dramatic state
there,thec
javachip: mind and thoughts become very clear
javachip: i've fasting for over two weeks
womack: jchip's longest fast?
javachip: *fasted
womack: in the past
javachip: 15 days
womack: water only?
javachip: +20 day recovery
womack: in Korea?
javachip: no in the states
womack: which one?
javachip: California
womack: zip?
javachip: it was on water
javachip: 90005ish ;)
womack: U had any associates therein?
javachip: you mean to help me?
javachip: yes i did
javachip: after 8 days
javachip: not much power
womack: 1 or few friends or more organized ?
javachip: no no
javachip: just a helper
womack: what yr ?
javachip: 2004
thecmvick: heh ive forgotten to eat when lost in thought for maybe a
day but 2 weeks  >.> ?  thats rough
thecmvick: You said you only took in water?
javachip: yes
javachip: actually
javachip: it would be 16 days
javachip: first day i drank a lot of water and a laxative
javachip: then i drank special salt water
thecmvick: how did you start the recovovery progress?  Id think that
suddenly trying to eat again would make you very sick
javachip: i have an acupuncturist
javachip: who taught me the ways, it's not something you just go about
doing, or look up online
javachip: i had ulcers
javachip: so he told me to let my body heal itself
javachip: the recovery process was much harder than the fast
javachip: for about a week, i was eating about... half a cup of white
rice gruel 3x a day
javachip: the weak after, some no acidic fruits, and then slowly get
back to normal
womack: Cure the ulcer?
javachip: yes
javachip: completely
javachip: cured something else too ;)
womack: Milder cure for ulcers = high quality MJ and regular drinking
of aloe vera
javachip: libido went through the roof
womack: Bragging Rights come in handy, too, eh?
avachip: ;)
womack: Re earlier pt: As a religious icon, I recommend downloading &
laminating the pic of little Miss Abir Aramin    http://tinyurl.com/876x2qv
javachip: why?
javachip: womack, how does peyote affect dopamine levels in the brain?
womack: pls view her first?
javachip: i think meditation is the most powerful drug
javachip: ;)
javachip: ok
javachip: i did
javachip: tell me more?
womack: AA = one of those 12 million victims murdered by DICTATA alias
the DC - Tel Aviv Terrorist Axis
javachip: oh no
javachip: ....
javachip: why are you SO into that stuff womack?
womack: On the Usenet I launched a branding campaign: MLG for
"Murdering Little Girls"
javachip: i mean what would you have others do?
womack: How about we form a posse to arrest, try, convict & punish the
MLG-ers?
womack: Does one use one's senses, then one sees, hears, smells &
feels --right?
womack: What other global phenomenon, if any, outranks in jchip's POV
MLG ?
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javachip: first day i drank a lot of water and a laxative
javachip: then i drank special salt water
thecmvick: how did you start the recovovery progress?  Id think that
suddenly trying to eat again would make you very sick
javachip: i have an acupuncturist
javachip: who taught me the ways, it's not something you just go about
doing, or look up online
javachip: i had ulcers
javachip: so he told me to let my body heal itself
javachip: the recovery process was much harder than the fast
javachip: for about a week, i was eating about... half a cup of white
rice gruel 3x a day
javachip: the weak after, some no acidic fruits, and then slowly get
back to normal
womack: Cure the ulcer?
javachip: yes
javachip: completely
javachip: cured something else too ;)
womack: Milder cure for ulcers = high quality MJ and regular drinking
of aloe vera
javachip: libido went through the roof
womack: Bragging Rights come in handy, too, eh?
javachip: ;)
womack: Re earlier pt: As a religious icon, I recommend downloading &
laminating the pic of little Miss Abir Aramin    http://tinyurl.com/876x2qv
javachip: why?
javachip: womack, how does peyote affect dopamine levels in the brain?
womack: pls view her first?
javachip: i think meditation is the most powerful drug
javachip: ;)
javachip: ok
javachip: i did
javachip: tell me more?
womack: AA = one of those 12 million victims murdered by DICTATA alias
the DC - Tel Aviv Terrorist Axis
javachip: oh no
javachip: ....
javachip: why are you SO into that stuff womack?
womack: On the Usenet I launched a branding campaign: MLG for
"Murdering Little Girls"
javachip: i mean what would you have others do?
womack: How about we form a posse to arrest, try, convict & punish the
MLG-ers?
womack: Does one use one's senses, then one sees, hears, smells &
feels --right?
womack: What other global phenomenon, if any, outranks in jchip's POV
MLG ?
womack: For those suffering from the common "dead soul" problem, I
will also point out that a US court has set the value of one [1] human
life at ~ $30 billion
javachip: ?
javachip: environment
javachip: environment comes first
javachip: i'd put a tiger over an entire corporation
javachip: a tiger, a panda, a polar bear, or even a dolphin
womack: chip needs to think a bit deeper on this Q ?
javachip: balance with nature
wicket: lots of problems in africa too
wicket: but you can't blame the jews for those right
javachip: a lot of your problems womack comes from simply too many
people
Uberdude: for road cost benefit analysis in the UK 1 life is worth
about £1.4 million
womack: Years ago I published "Womack's First Environmental Law" re
most toxic substance
womack: Rt there Udude & thx. I picked the highest value ever awarded
by a US court at any level
womack: Hello wicket 3d. I wish to blame only the guilty parties
javachip: i've been kicked around and pushed around my whole life
womack
javachip: i'm just tired of all that kind of stuff
javachip: now ill take a small nice cottage, some income property, a
bookcase, some cognac, maybe some peytoe, a few nice lady friends, and
i'll be happy
womack: Speaking of Africa, though, the Rothschilds did finance the
occupation of the Belgian Congo with ~20 million estimated victims
back when
javachip: a yacht, a SUV, and airfare and i'll be a very happy man
womack: also highly relevant WRT Africa today = my old Columbia U chum
Mahmood Mamdani's book on Darfur as a propagnda exercise
womack: jchip back to his theme $ong
Uberdude: wicket, never underestimate womack's aiblity to blame jews
=)
Warfreak2: womack probably blames jews for the holocaust
javachip: lol
javachip: womack, i will ask this once
javachip: what will you have me do
javachip: ?
womack: Does Udude, like the US Congress, seek to give Jews special
exemption to commit murder? Udude wishes to tell us about the Gaza
Massacre of 2009 ?
Oloril: Nothing wrong with a little bit of murder here and there.
womack: Blaming Jews for the Holdamor in the Ukraine would start with
Genrik Jagoda, I guess
Uberdude: womack, you might be surprised i'm fairly anti israel
Uberdude: but that doesn't make me pro or anti jew
womack: If Udude's serious about this issue, then I recommend we
discuss it on Usenet --permanent record & more convenient for extended
argument
Uberdude: the domineering actions of a few should not taint all people
of a similar religion or race
womack: Let Oloril's mouth fall on its own family?
Oloril: Good, fewer Christmas presents to buy.
womack: Survey's showed ~75% of US Jews approved of the Gaza Massacre
months after the news was out, since Udude brings up the subject of
complicity
womack: Also of all parties in this convo, only I have praised good
Jews by name, 2 of 'em so far
javachip: are you an anti semitic?
javachip: ;)
javachip: i am anti-"we are the chosen people"
womack: What's called, jchip, a floater Q ?
javachip: well i asked you
javachip: what would you have me do?
javachip: become a NAVY seal?
womack: ~90+% of Semites are Arab
javachip: join the peace corps?
javachip: joine the peace corpses?
Oloril: Navy SEALs are harder to club than baby seals.
javachip: ;)
javachip: they're cuter too
javachip: womack -- seriously... LGO
womack: Since you've been into meditation, chip, start by looking for
a few moments every day at that laminated pic of Abir Aramin?
javachip: i meditate to bring peace of mind
javachip: not to ponder upon suffering?
javachip: to circulate energy -- not to stagnate it with tears
womack: I walked with a USN seal in NOLA in 1971, back from VN where
his unit had been destroyed
javachip: what good can come out of poking the dead?
womack: chip knows the expression "hungry ghosts" ?
womack: To blind oneself to mass murder = a pitiful, doomed confession
and surrender to weakness
javachip: that's the point womack
javachip: i'm NOT blind to it
javachip: but i can't do much about it
javachip: you keep doing 911 talks you'll have CIA knocking on your
door ;)
javachip: i had a friend once who had something like that happen
womack: LOL. Dude, I have told you before, I was at HQ, had lunch
twice with David Rockefeller on top of the WTC
womack: I also have had > a dozen kith assassinated by gunfire, blade,
poison & auto
womack: Managing the risks and achieving the Planetary victory = the
task of our present generation
javachip: can i get paid for it womack?
womack: Highly instructive examples in the modern history of China &
Vietnam
womack: LOL. "Save the world, what's innit for me?"
Warfreak2: if a life really was worth £1.4m for the purposes of road
safety, we'd be investing billions in trains
womack: How about this, achieve the top leadership position, then
after victory we, the grateful humanity, will send you on a RT to the
Moon?
javachip: no
javachip: save the world
javachip: how can i pay my bills?
javachip: save the world, but i'd like to fulfill my dreams and
obligations
womack: warf will speak w Udude on that UK pt?
womack: chip has an obligation that outweighs defending children
against murder? What is that Big O, exactly?
womack: Speaking of pay: Our Planet now somewhat like emerging oil
industry before JD Rockefeller coordinated it. We have parallel op &
necessity WRT sovereign states
womack: As I recall, Rocky did manage to make some money out of his
efforts
cekalo: rocky balboa?
womack: As they say in Rhode Island, "Think big!" ?
womack: Balboa did some stuff in his day, too, got streets named after
him out here in CA
javachip: how about the M word womack?
womack: Money or Murder ?
javachip: nope
javachip: MORTGAGE
womack: LOL
javachip: i'm too old to get married
javachip: so definitely not the M word ;)
womack: See above, re money, verra handy re mgage
womack: Dude, ur still <40, rt?
javachip: yeah
javachip: i can find plenty of girlfriends
javachip: but i can't find a marriage partner
javachip: i'm not going to get married at 40 to some... second hand
second class lady ;)
javachip: so yes
javachip: i do have obgliations
javachip: obligations
javachip: bills
XY0908: Why not, when you are a third class man yourself?
womack: As a SOB or Silly Old Bachelor, I find quite inspiring Rupert
Murdoch's marriage @ age 68 which has produced at least a couple of
kids
womack: Hello XY!
XY0908: I hope they are his.
womack: LOL
javachip: i'm not in the mood
CptHook: 40> you will be inflexible old horse so get mariied soon,java
javachip: so anyway
womack: First the automodile, now blood tests.
javachip: #1 i'm against a beggar's marriage
javachip: #2 no need to get tied up when i can just play around later
womack: Lotza po' folk havin' babies out there
javachip: but back to the topic womack
javachip: give me a concrete plan
javachip: of what i should do?
javachip: i don't have enough money in my bankaccount to sway the
worlde
womack: chip, via email I will give you a highly individualized plan
but for here I will keep it general
javachip: :)
CptHook: haha
javachip: i don't have enough money in my bank account to convince an
old miss like Demi More to move in with me
javachip: how the ____________ can I move a nation?
javachip: or any man for that matter?
womack: chip remembers Mao Zedong's essay about the foolish old man
who moved mountains?
womack: Should we take the best examples from the past & stand on
their shoulders in the usual heroic manner?
javachip: no
javachip: i will tell you clearly right now
javachip: i am not that man
javachip: i will not standin front of tanks
javachip: i will not be treated like a civil rights protestor
womack: Men who moved nations: Ho Chi Minh, Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales,
Nelson Mandela, Hassan Nasrallah
javachip: and i refuse to get tear gased
CptHook: i know one man without legs moved on the top of mountain
javachip: i'm not your man
javachip: you give me a few million i'll build you housing for cost
price
javachip: help you manage a charity
womack: Sun Zu, Mao & me agree on the first rule of war: Preserve
yourself.
javachip: maybe find ways to save tigers or breed them
womack: 2nd rule: destroy the enemy
javachip: but put myself in the face of danger that is not in the
nature of STDs?
javachip: no thanks ;)
womack: really chip, you should go out w clean girls. I've spoken to
you about that
womack: We take note that today war, ever excepting that holy one
between the sexes, has become obsolete.
womack: Now 'tis the case of humanity vs the criminal despotism. We
could call it a global revolutionary police action.
womack: Or for short, "GREPA" ?
javachip: ^^
javachip: i do go out with clean girls
javachip: as clean as they get
javachip: it was a figure of speech
javachip: all is fair in love and war
womack: Besides names given above, also worthy of attention are the
living: Francis Boyle, Paul Craig Roberts, Cynthia McKinney, David
Irving, John le Carre, Hector Carreon, Rigoberta Menchu
javachip: you SHOULD know that by now
javachip: i suggest you read
javachip: stuff by DEAD people
javachip: start with Homer
javachip: work yourself up to Plutarch
javachip: and then as dessert read Gates of Fire (by a living
author) ;)
womack: chip's now shouting at us because he introduced the risk of
his expsoure to "STD"  in the convo?
womack: Did I intro chip to that last guy?
womack: Ah, different book, thx, I'm always looking for novels that
peeps plug
womack: BTW chip, in 1966 I corrected Wm Arrowsmith's translation &
interpretation of Euripides' BACCHAE
womack: Stephen Frey, the banker, a decent read, earlier titles better
than his recent HELL'S GATE
javachip: by the way
Oloril: I wish that I could be Richard Cory
javachip: i read Gates of Fire BEFORE all that "this is sparta, and
that 300 movie crap"
womack: chip's shouting again, eh? Early practical task of honest
fellows = create a Website better than COUNTERPUNCH http://www.counterpunch.org/
womack: Alexander Cockburn of the NATION mag flacks for the Regime,
says Lee Harvey Oswald knocked over Bldg 7 but AC's CP does have some
decent authors
womack: witch's way more than can be said for most others
womack: Oloril fey today, as usual
womack: The Sayeret Matkal's smashing of Princess Di and Dody
certainly put the fear of the Devil into Madonna, Bill Gates, W Buffet
& the rest of the normal alias "gentile" rich
womack: "Only the good die young" & NGDGU, eh?
javachip: hehehe
alfalfa: they say that richard cory owns one-half of this old town
javachip: do you have any methods of me becoming rich womack?
alfalfa: with po-li-ti-cal connections, to spread his wealth around
womack: Darn, chip, are U still eating at Sally Ann's? I'm working on
my own portfolio but have mentioned already some instructive examples
Oloril: He has everything a man could want, power, grace, and style.
womack: This morning I finished reading TOYS [2011] by James
Patterson, a plot highly relevant to our present discussion, therefore
fairly enjoyable
womack: The notorious old Marin County bumper-sticker, "He Who Has the
Most Toys, Wins" reads true only with correct counting procedure
womack: Namely, one vote each per toy-owning happy, loyal grandchild
[younger than age of reason voted by ma]
womack: General method of getting rich & keeping it = help organize
the Third World Age Matrimonial Association or TWAMA to take over
Earth & run her right.
womack: Businessmen may also take to heart Mao's appreciation of the
"national bourgeoisie" vs the "comprador"
baian: hi hal
womack: Particular method of getting mucho moola = Consult w me re
"Barney 9" & other proprietary concepts
womack: Hello baian 1d!
womack: A game?
baian: mm ok  sure  put one up
womack: roger that. Ciao all [~13:00 hrs.] Silence as of my departure
continues at least through after game with Bill Hewitt of Rochester NY
"baian 1d" @ 13:45 hrs. Hewitt won by resignation.