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From the time I started to cook outside I've wondered about the =
difference in cost between charcoal and gas. I began to work on a =
spreadsheet about=20
this and so far I've come up with the following table.


     BTU/lb Charcoal
     Charcoal $/lb
     $ per 1000 BTU
     BTU in 5lb Charcoal
     Cost for 5lb Charcoal
     Cost for 1 hour grilling
     Cost for 2 hours grilling
    =20
      Charcoal
     10000
     $0.35
     $0.0350
     50000
     $1.75
     $1.75
     $1.75
    =20
      Charcoal
     10000
     $0.45
     $0.0450
     50000
     $2.25
     $2.25
     $2.25
    =20
      Charcoal
     10000
     $0.55
     $0.0550
     50000
     $2.75
     $2.75
     $2.75
    =20

     BTU/lb of 450,000 BTU tank
     Propane $/lb
    =20
     BTU/hour of gas grill
     Cost for 20lb Propane
     Cost for 1 hour grilling
     Cost for 2 hours grilling
    =20
      Propane
     22500
     $0.95
     $0.0421
     10000
     $18.95
     $0.42
     $0.84
    =20
      Propane
     22500
     $0.95
     $0.0421
     20000
     $18.95
     $0.84
     $1.68
    =20
      Propane
     22500
     $0.95
     $0.0421
     30000
     $18.95
     $1.26
     $2.53
    =20
      Propane
     22500
     $0.95
     $0.0421
     36000
     $18.95
     $1.52
     $3.03
    =20
      Propane
     22500
     $0.95
     $0.0421
     40000
     $18.95
     $1.68
     $3.37
    =20

    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20
      Propane
     22500
     $0.85
     $0.0377
     20000
     $16.95
     $0.75
     $1.51
    =20
      Propane
     22500
     $0.85
     $0.0377
     30000
     $16.95
     $1.13
     $2.26
    =20
      Propane
     22500
     $0.85
     $0.0377
     36000
     $16.95
     $1.36
     $2.71
    =20

If I'm correct the cost is much closer than I thought, though the  =
variability is only hinted at above. When you grill you turn the gas on =
when you begin and off when you end. When you use charcoal you light so =
many pounds of charcoal. The charcoal burns until it goes out. Different =
types and brands of charcoal have different BTU's per pound of weight. I =
would guess a gas smoker may consume as little as 3-5000 BTU per hour. =
If anyone knows I'd appreciate knowing.=20

Please let me know if any see errors. If you have other thoughts about =
this I'd appreciate hearing them.

Ed=20

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<P>If I'm correct the cost is much closer than I thought, though =
the&nbsp;=20
variability is only hinted at above. When you grill you turn the gas on =
when you=20
begin and off when you end. When you use charcoal you light so many =
pounds of=20
charcoal. The charcoal burns until it goes out. Different types and =
brands of=20
charcoal have different BTU's per pound of weight. I would guess a gas =
smoker=20
may consume as little as 3-5000 BTU per hour. If anyone knows I'd =
appreciate=20
knowing. </P>
<P>Please let me know if any see errors. If you have other thoughts =
about this=20
I'd appreciate hearing them.</P>
<P>Ed </P></FONT></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML></FONT>

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