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Re: Xview API for Motif! Interested? Please answer.

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From: Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Con...
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 06:08
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dshaker@qualix.com (Doug Shaker) writes:



>...easy-to-use Xview API and transitioning them to the...ahem... more
>complex API of Motif is not going to be easy.

This is an entirely subjective opinion based on a) what you learned 
first, and b) where your vested interests lie.  I am not sure that 
Motif is harder to code than Xview, in fact, it's been the opposite
for me.

>	I think an Xview API for Motif is:
>		_ Brilliant, it will save me loads of time. Xview forever!
>		_ Good idea, will you support Openlook Xview, too?
>		X OK, but it is a short term fix.
>		X A stupid idea. What a hoser!
                ^---somewhere in between these two...

>	What OS version would you want this to operate on:
>		X SunOS 4.1.x <--- I'd guess most Xview code lives here anyway
                                   (I could be wrong...)
>		_ Solaris 2.1 for Sparc
>		_ HPUX for 9000/700
>		_ AIX for RS/6000
>		_ SCO
>		_ Decstation/Ultrix
>		_ Univel Unix
>		X Something else: CP/M :-) just kidding...

>	How soon do you need to get it before it is no longer useful to you?
>		_  I need it yesterday.
>		_  I need it by the end of July.
>		_  I need it by the end of the September.
>		_  I need it before my customers start to really use Solaris 2
>			and I think that will be__________________.
>		_  I need it by the end of 1993.
>		X  I don't really need it.

>	If you think your company would use it, how much time do you 
>		think it would save your group in development effort:
>		_ Hours of labor
>		_ Days of labor
>		_ Weeks of labor
>		_ Months of labor
>		_ Years of labor
>		_ Lifetimes of labor
                X none of the above, Xview code needs to be brought
                  into complaince with the accepted de-facto industry
                  standard of Motif's API.  The fact is that if a 
                  company invests in their humans (e.g. training)
                  then they will have a skilled crew who can make
                  lean solid Motif code in a fairly short turnaround.
                  Smart people far outweigh GUI builders in their
                  delivered benefit here.  A well designed UI does
                  not take that long to crank out, the engine underneath
                  and it's UI hooks are, IMHO, a larger task sometimes.

>	How much should it cost?____________________________

>Thanks for the answers!  Let's hope this works.

Hmmm...well, good luck.  I guess I was never too keen on Xview.
I'm sure I'm guilty of some personal bias as well, as are we all,
so don't let me rain on anyone's parade.

> - Doug Shaker

Mark
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Subject: Re: Xview API for Motif! Interested? Please answer.
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Organization: Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor
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