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Article #77Re: Xview API for Motif! Interested? Please answer.
From: Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Con...
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 06:08
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 06:08
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dshaker@qualix.com (Doug Shaker) writes:
>...easy-to-use Xview API and transitioning them to the...ahem... more
>complex API of Motif is not going to be easy.
This is an entirely subjective opinion based on a) what you learned
first, and b) where your vested interests lie. I am not sure that
Motif is harder to code than Xview, in fact, it's been the opposite
for me.
> I think an Xview API for Motif is:
> _ Brilliant, it will save me loads of time. Xview forever!
> _ Good idea, will you support Openlook Xview, too?
> X OK, but it is a short term fix.
> X A stupid idea. What a hoser!
^---somewhere in between these two...
> What OS version would you want this to operate on:
> X SunOS 4.1.x <--- I'd guess most Xview code lives here anyway
(I could be wrong...)
> _ Solaris 2.1 for Sparc
> _ HPUX for 9000/700
> _ AIX for RS/6000
> _ SCO
> _ Decstation/Ultrix
> _ Univel Unix
> X Something else: CP/M :-) just kidding...
> How soon do you need to get it before it is no longer useful to you?
> _ I need it yesterday.
> _ I need it by the end of July.
> _ I need it by the end of the September.
> _ I need it before my customers start to really use Solaris 2
> and I think that will be__________________.
> _ I need it by the end of 1993.
> X I don't really need it.
> If you think your company would use it, how much time do you
> think it would save your group in development effort:
> _ Hours of labor
> _ Days of labor
> _ Weeks of labor
> _ Months of labor
> _ Years of labor
> _ Lifetimes of labor
X none of the above, Xview code needs to be brought
into complaince with the accepted de-facto industry
standard of Motif's API. The fact is that if a
company invests in their humans (e.g. training)
then they will have a skilled crew who can make
lean solid Motif code in a fairly short turnaround.
Smart people far outweigh GUI builders in their
delivered benefit here. A well designed UI does
not take that long to crank out, the engine underneath
and it's UI hooks are, IMHO, a larger task sometimes.
> How much should it cost?____________________________
>Thanks for the answers! Let's hope this works.
Hmmm...well, good luck. I guess I was never too keen on Xview.
I'm sure I'm guilty of some personal bias as well, as are we all,
so don't let me rain on anyone's parade.
> - Doug Shaker
Mark
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