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Article #10319Re: Cleat Systems (& Pedals for sale)
From: Stanley Jang
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 00:00
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 00:00
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curt@portal.ca (Curt Sampson) writes: >I'm starting to look at moving to a clipless pedal system, and I'm >looking for something suitable for a roadie who does a lot of >commuting and some touring. I've got a few questions for people out >there, especially those who've used more than one system. >1. Are any other systems besides Shimano SPD and the Look MTB easy >to walk in? I'm interested only in systems that I could walk a couple >of blocks in without problems. There are a number of pedals that are very similar to SPD. These include Onza, Ritchey, VP, and a few others. Most of them claim some compatibility with Shimano SPD. Since you don't currently have SPD pedals, it doesn't matter whether one of these brands will work well with SPD. They all use cleats that look similar to SPD cleats, so in general, will work with SPD pedals. >2. How much difference does pedal area make? I notice that the >standard Look has a much larger cleat and pedal area than SPDs. Some people claim that it makes a difference. I think that the smaller the contact area on the pedal, the stiffer your soles of your shoes should be. But for commuting and recreational riding, it really doesn't matter. Off-road shoes aren't that stiff, but mountain bikers use them with SPD pedals which have a small contact area. >3. Has anyone compared several different clipless systems? What >are your comments on each? I've used several. I currently use Look style road pedals (with the big triangular cleat) and Shimano SPD's. I've owned Sampson pedals before too. If you want light weight, you'd probably be interested in Sampson, Speedplay or Aerolite. I don't think that weight is too much of a concern for you. I've walked stores and malls with the Look style pedals (which don't have a recessed cleat). I would not want to walk two blocks in them. For your purposes, I would definitely recommend pedals with a recessed cleat. Its the only way to go when touring (you never know when you have to push your bike). I find that for road riding, I'm not as picky about the engage/disengage characteristics of the pedals as for off-roading. You'd probably be happy with any of the major recessed cleat pedals out there. One question is whether you want one or two sided pedals. Two-sided pedals are definitely better when off-roading. On the road, I prefer one sided pedals that return to a given position in case you mis-engage the first time and have to try again while crossing a busy intersection. Most one-sided pedals are like this. I actually find it easier to clip into my one-sided SPD's than my two-sided SPD's (on the road). This is because I know the orientation of the pedal, so I do the same motion every time with my foot and it works (95% hit rate). With two sided pedals, I fubble briefly (sometimes not so brief) to get the tip of the cleat into the right place. Oh, my experience could be due to the fact that I use the one-sided pedals much more than the two-sides ones. With two-sided pedals though, you don't have to worry about clipping in right away, you can just pedal while disengaged. This is tricky with any one-sided pedal with you're on the wrong side. This is one reason why tandemists prefer two-sided recessed cleat pedals. They can pedal while on the wrong side of the pedal, and they can put their feet down and get good traction to hold up the heavier bike. You ride a recumbent, don't you? I don't know how easy it is for you to engage, but you may find two-sided pedals easier to use as well. Oh, there's one other pedal that I have experience with. I'll give my sales pitch while I tell you about them. Three weeks ago, I bought the Ritchey off-road clipless pedals from Mtn Equipment Co-op. I wanted to use them for my ATB. I currently use SPD's for commuting, so it was important that the Ritchey's be compatible so that I could use the same shoes. Unfortunately, they're not as compatible as I would like. The pedals have otherwise been fine for my limited use. They engage/disengage smoothly. They claim to be lighter than Shimano SPD's, and have three sets of bearings (like Shimano), unlike possibly some of the cheaper Taiwanese pedals (like VP, I think). So, if anyone is interested, I'm offering these "attractive" red Ritchey pedals for sale. They retail for $130 at MEC. I'll sell them for say, 20% off what I paid. They've only been used twice. Good luck with your hunt for pedals! Regards, Stan -- ----- Stan Jang <sjang@cs.ubc.ca>, Research Programmer Imager Computer Graphics Laboratory University of British Columbia
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fe616,36f1df222138d03c X-Google-Attributes: gidfe616,public From: sjang@cs.ubc.ca (Stanley Jang) Subject: Re: Cleat Systems (& Pedals for sale) Date: 1995/11/03 Message-ID: <47don9$t0r@idle.cs.ubc.ca> X-Deja-AN: 118546069 references: <47c02t$jde@cynic.portal.ca> organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada newsgroups: bc.cycling