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On 19 Apr 2007 10:57:09 -0700, gojogo wrote:

> Howdy All,
> I'm an upstate NYer trying to figure out the best touring roads in
> your neck of the woods for a 3-4 wk solo trip this August.  I've never
> been to eastern BC (got as far as Revelstoke a few yrs ago) and would
> love any advice/info regarding less-trafficked cycling routes outside
> of Vancouver.  My Surly and I greatly appreciate it.

You will have to wear a magic foam hat - it's required by law; and should
there be a gravelled shoulder at the side of the paved roadway case law
requires that you ride on that, rather than the paved portion.

yojo48@gmail.com wrote...

> Howdy All,
> I'm an upstate NYer trying to figure out the best touring roads in
> your neck of the woods for a 3-4 wk solo trip this August.  I've never
> been to eastern BC (got as far as Revelstoke a few yrs ago) and would
> love any advice/info regarding less-trafficked cycling routes outside
> of Vancouver.  My Surly and I greatly appreciate it.

How about ride the Icefields Parkway from Lake Loiuse to Jasper in 
Alberta, then cross the border & ride up to Prince George along the 
upper Fraser River, then out to Prince Rupert on the North Coast, then 
take the ferry overnight down to Vancouver Island  . . .

The Icefields Parkway is fairly busy - but has wide paved shoulders (& 
lots of cycle tour groups).  The hwy up to Prince George is not heavily 
travelled.

Eric  

On Apr 19, 10:57 am, gojogo <yoj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy All,
> I'm an upstate NYer trying to figure out the best touring roads in
> your neck of the woods for a 3-4 wk solo trip this August.  I've never
> been to eastern BC (got as far as Revelstoke a few yrs ago) and would
> love any advice/info regarding less-trafficked cycling routes outside
> of Vancouver.  My Surly and I greatly appreciate it.

Here's a 3-week solo trip I did in 2001:

Day 1:  depart Vancouver, ferry to Nanaimo, overnight in Bowser
Day 2:  ride to Campbell River
Day 3:  ride to Woss
Day 4:  ride to Port Hardy
Day 5:  ferry to Prince Rupert (15 hours)
Day 6:  ride Rupert eastward, camp out beside Skeena River
Day 7:  ride past Terrace, camp out beside River
Day 8:  ride to New Hazelton
Day 9:  ride to Telkwa (awesome touring cyclist overnight stop, just
awesome)
Day 10:  ride to Houston
Day 11, 12, 13 wait in Houston while new barcon shifters FedExed up
from Vancouver (STI broke!)
Day 14:  Finally leave Houston, ride to Burns Lake
Day 15: ride to Vanderhoof
Day 16:  ride to Prince George
Day 17:  ride to Quesnel
Day 18:  Ferry across river, ride through quiet ranch country,
different ferry back to Williams Lake
Day 19:  ride to Lac la Hache
Day 20:  ride to 70 Mile House
Day 21:  ride to Cache Creek
Day 22:  ride to Spences Bridge
Day 23:  ride to Yale
Day 24:  ride to Abbotsford
Day 25:  home to Vancouver

Throughout much of BC, the only way from point A to point B is to take
the main highway, and share it with the rest of the traffic.  There
are few side roads because of the mountainous terrain.  That said,
though, most highways have good wide paved shoulders so sharing the
road is rarely a problem.  Avoid Hwy 99 from Vancouver to Whistler.
It's deadly for cyclists.

Good places to go are the Okanagan and Cariboo (follow Hwy 97 from the
US border to Prince George).  These places are flatter than a lot of
the rest of the province and there are more opportunities to explore
side roads.

If you can manage to get to northwestern BC, Hwy 16 from Terrace to
Prince Rupert will knock your socks off.  Wide, incredibly scenic, not
to much traffic.  You can take the ferry from Prince Rupert down to
Vancouver Island and ride back down and hop on a second ferry back to
Vancouver.

I don't know what this "case law" is that the other poster referred
to, about keeping to gravel shoulders only.  I have always ridden on
the paved shoulder everywhere in BC and have never had a problem.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

In article <1osj0zczmfau3.1nllgibcngxnf.dlg@40tude.net>,
	_ <jtayNOSPAMlor@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com> writes:
> On 19 Apr 2007 10:57:09 -0700, gojogo wrote:
> 
>> Howdy All,
>> I'm an upstate NYer trying to figure out the best touring roads in
>> your neck of the woods for a 3-4 wk solo trip this August.  I've never
>> been to eastern BC (got as far as Revelstoke a few yrs ago) and would
>> love any advice/info regarding less-trafficked cycling routes outside
>> of Vancouver.  My Surly and I greatly appreciate it.
> 
> You will have to wear a magic foam hat - it's required by law; and should
> there be a gravelled shoulder at the side of the paved roadway case law
> requires that you ride on that, rather than the paved portion.

No.

While B.C. cyclists are mandated to paved highway shoulders
where it's practicable to do so, we are not mandated off the
paved portions of the highways.

The whole thing boils down to some legal terminology --
roadway vs. highway.  Both "roadway" and "highway" pertain
to paved portions.  There's even a proviso in the British
Columbia Motor Vehicle Act that explicitly states that
cyclists are not relegated off the paved portions of highways.

-- 
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:21:52 -0700, Tom Keats wrote:

> In article <1osj0zczmfau3.1nllgibcngxnf.dlg@40tude.net>,
> 	_ <jtayNOSPAMlor@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com> writes:
>> On 19 Apr 2007 10:57:09 -0700, gojogo wrote:
>> 
>>> Howdy All,
>>> I'm an upstate NYer trying to figure out the best touring roads in
>>> your neck of the woods for a 3-4 wk solo trip this August.  I've never
>>> been to eastern BC (got as far as Revelstoke a few yrs ago) and would
>>> love any advice/info regarding less-trafficked cycling routes outside
>>> of Vancouver.  My Surly and I greatly appreciate it.
>> 
>> You will have to wear a magic foam hat - it's required by law; and should
>> there be a gravelled shoulder at the side of the paved roadway case law
>> requires that you ride on that, rather than the paved portion.
> 
> No.
> 
> While B.C. cyclists are mandated to paved highway shoulders
> where it's practicable to do so, we are not mandated off the
> paved portions of the highways.
> 
> The whole thing boils down to some legal terminology --
> roadway vs. highway.  Both "roadway" and "highway" pertain
> to paved portions.  There's even a proviso in the British
> Columbia Motor Vehicle Act that explicitly states that
> cyclists are not relegated off the paved portions of highways.

I just checked - you are correct.  This is a welcome change, since the case
of the cyclists who was faulted for not riding on the gravel.  The other
anti-cycling provisions (magic hats, no ordinaries, unicyclists, or
fixed-wheels) remain....

On Apr 19, 3:26 pm, Eric© <eric©@hardknocks.edu> wrote:
> yoj...@gmail.com wrote...
> > Howdy All,
> > I'm an upstate NYer trying to figure out the best touring roads in
> > your neck of the woods for a 3-4 wk solo trip this August.  I've never
> > been to eastern BC (got as far as Revelstoke a few yrs ago) and would
> > love any advice/info regarding less-trafficked cycling routes outside
> > of Vancouver.  My Surly and I greatly appreciate it.
>
> How about ride the Icefields Parkway from Lake Loiuse to Jasper in
> Alberta, then cross the border & ride up to Prince George along the
> upper Fraser River, then out to Prince Rupert on the North Coast, then
> take the ferry overnight down to Vancouver Island  . . .
>
> The Icefields Parkway is fairly busy - but has wide paved shoulders (&
> lots of cycle tour groups).  The hwy up to Prince George is not heavily
> travelled.
>
> Eric  

Thanks for replying, Eric.  Yours was one of several responses - much
food for thought...but the planning is half the fun.  Cheers.  -Johanna

On Apr 19, 7:52 pm, Király <ggrand...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 10:57 am, gojogo <yoj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Howdy All,
> > I'm an upstate NYer trying to figure out the best touring roads in
> > your neck of the woods for a 3-4 wk solo trip this August.  I've never
> > been to eastern BC (got as far as Revelstoke a few yrs ago) and would
> > love any advice/info regarding less-trafficked cycling routes outside
> > of Vancouver.  My Surly and I greatly appreciate it.
>
> Here's a 3-week solo trip I did in 2001:
>
> Day 1:  depart Vancouver, ferry to Nanaimo, overnight in Bowser
> Day 2:  ride to Campbell River
> Day 3:  ride to Woss
> Day 4:  ride to Port Hardy
> Day 5:  ferry to Prince Rupert (15 hours)
> Day 6:  ride Rupert eastward, camp out beside Skeena River
> Day 7:  ride past Terrace, camp out beside River
> Day 8:  ride to New Hazelton
> Day 9:  ride to Telkwa (awesome touring cyclist overnight stop, just
> awesome)
> Day 10:  ride to Houston
> Day 11, 12, 13 wait in Houston while new barcon shifters FedExed up
> from Vancouver (STI broke!)
> Day 14:  Finally leave Houston, ride to Burns Lake
> Day 15: ride to Vanderhoof
> Day 16:  ride to Prince George
> Day 17:  ride to Quesnel
> Day 18:  Ferry across river, ride through quiet ranch country,
> different ferry back to Williams Lake
> Day 19:  ride to Lac la Hache
> Day 20:  ride to 70 Mile House
> Day 21:  ride to Cache Creek
> Day 22:  ride to Spences Bridge
> Day 23:  ride to Yale
> Day 24:  ride to Abbotsford
> Day 25:  home to Vancouver
>
> Throughout much of BC, the only way from point A to point B is to take
> the main highway, and share it with the rest of the traffic.  There
> are few side roads because of the mountainous terrain.  That said,
> though, most highways have good wide paved shoulders so sharing the
> road is rarely a problem.  Avoid Hwy 99 from Vancouver to Whistler.
> It's deadly for cyclists.
>
> Good places to go are the Okanagan and Cariboo (follow Hwy 97 from the
> US border to Prince George).  These places are flatter than a lot of
> the rest of the province and there are more opportunities to explore
> side roads.
>
> If you can manage to get to northwestern BC, Hwy 16 from Terrace to
> Prince Rupert will knock your socks off.  Wide, incredibly scenic, not
> to much traffic.  You can take the ferry from Prince Rupert down to
> Vancouver Island and ride back down and hop on a second ferry back to
> Vancouver.
>
> I don't know what this "case law" is that the other poster referred
> to, about keeping to gravel shoulders only.  I have always ridden on
> the paved shoulder everywhere in BC and have never had a problem.
>
> --
> K.
>
> Lang may your lum reek.

Thanks for all the detail!  Will definitely take notes and start
marking the maps.
Cheers, Johanna