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Re: Did HA Torch Apartment Building At 7185 Hall Rd In Surrey?

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From: Used to be Surrey Trash
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:05
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Woah = Mind Blown,
I was just fucking round on google searching old dives I used to rent and this shit came up. That was one of many shacks I knew of that burnt down in those couple years I lived there. Messed up shit.


On Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:23:02 PM UTC-8, Greg  Carr wrote:
> Global News ran a story in which someone claimed the fire started in a
> suite someone had just been evicted from and that they made a number of
> threats. A number of residents believe a meth lab or grow op was behind
> the fire. Global News showed a young Caucasian man with close cropped
> hair in a red and white Haney support jacket present at the scene. This
> building is located in Newton and ppl wearing HA support gear have been
> seen selling drugs at the bus loop at the Newton Wave Pool. Three days
> later and the official story is that they haven't located the woman
> whose suite started the fire which was the lead story in the news that
> day. Seems suspicious. A HA sympathizer who lives in the building at
> 7185 HAll Rd. told me his residence escaped damage and he wasn't going
> to help any of the homeless. The building had been plagued by false
> alarms.
> 
> This wouldn't be the first time a fire in Surrey with HAMC overtones
> was explained away. Some ppl in HA are hoping that Surrey will get its
> own chapter and a number of ppl claim to be Surrey HA. I think a
> Whalley rocker would be interesting.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The official story is that a faulty heater caught fire. However two
> nights before the fire she moved her van  497-EBV from where she
> parked it out front and moved it around the side.
> 
> In its place was a green van with an HA guy and a hooker wearing a red
> sweater. Had seen her previously working the corner of 88th Ave. and
> King George Hwy (good work by the RCMP in finally cleaning up that
> stretch of King George Hwy...keep it up).
> 
> There has been an increase in HA activity in the neighbourhood and the
> apartment of the building oppositte at 224-13325-105 Ave. that has had
> gang ppl and HA supporters wearing t-shirts in it. This apartment is
> directly across the street.
> 
> This building is bizarre in that it is the only one in Surrey divided
> into cell blocks. A, B, C, D, E blocks. Just like in prisons. When I
> first moved in the local miscreants across the way were pushing my
> buzzer to annoy me and phoning me but when I contacted the manager
> the female manager denied it. I then contacted the Vancouver head
> office and the calls stopped. Aspec Security (red and white colour
> scheme) was at the site next door but they have since been removed.
> 
> Theory: HA wants to increase its drug trafficking and prostitution
> activities on the street. The prostitution has decreased to nil. This
> is probably idle speculation on my part but it wouldn't be the first
> time an arson fire wasn't initially recognized as such.
> 
> My apologies to the parent family if this information is wrong. I
> never met the woman but some former neighbours of hers told me she was
> quite a nice woman.
> 
> P.S. Who killed Colleen Ryder (sp?)  HA that's who.
> 
> 2548-GP Pick up truck. Confederate flag plates on the back. White
> male, stubble haircut, wearing a red kangaroo jacket with a Have A
> Nice Day middle finger extended logo on the back. Was taking out
> garbage bags of "evidence" from the burned out apartment. 11/13/05
> 5:00 PM
> 
> http://groups.google.ca/group/van.general/browse_thread/thread/6b27758642325e98/0a72bbc661cfa244?lnk=st&q=%22HA%22+%2B%22arson%22&rnum=3&hl=en#0a72bbc661cfa244
> is the original thread on that.
> 
> 5(81)-3535 is the phone number for Bristol Estates who run the complex
> where Bev Parent died.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Investigators don't know cause of Surrey fire
> December 28, 2006 - 6:19 pm
> By: Claudia Kwan
> 
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20061229.BCFIRE29/TPStory/National
> 
> Extensive damage' in Surrey blaze, chief says
> Post-Christmas fire forces 100 people from their homes
> SHANNON KARI
> 
> VANCOUVER -- Several residents of an apartment complex in Surrey face
> an uncertain future as a result of the damage from a fire on Wednesday
> that forced about 100 people from their homes.
> 
> "There has been extensive damage," said Brock Dorward, a battalion
> chief with the Surrey Fire Department.
> 
> Firefighters could be seen sifting through the debris of the 65-unit
> apartment building yesterday morning and Mr. Dorward said it will
> likely have to be torn down.
> 
> The fire at the building near 72nd Avenue and the King George Highway
> started Wednesday afternoon and more than 60 firefighters were called
> in to bring it under control. Some fire crews were still at the scene
> yesterday because of concerns about "hot spots" that could flare up.
> 
>  "I went down the hall and saw smoke coming out the door" of an
> apartment, said Tim Hoffman, a resident of the building.
> 
> Mr. Hoffman said he tried to kick open the door but "it got too hot,
> too smoky," so he grabbed a fire extinguisher. "I banged on doors with
> the fire extinguisher and told people to get out," Mr. Hoffman said.
> 
> It is too early to determine the cause of the fire, Mr. Dorward said,
> although he discounted a suggestion that it was linked to a possible
> drug lab in an apartment.
> 
> "I don't think that is a part of our investigation," he said.
> 
> The battalion chief confirmed only that the fire started in a
> second-floor unit in the three-story building.
> 
> Firefighters were hampered in their efforts, Mr. Dorward said, because
> some of the residents initially did not want to leave the building
> after the fire started.
> 
> Five people were treated for smoke inhalation and one resident remained
> in hospital yesterday in serious but stable condition.
> 
> Many of the residents are on a fixed income and it is believed that
> very few had fire insurance.
> 
> "As for what happens next, I don't know," resident Corrie Owens said.
> 
> "The only thing we can do is start over," she said, adding that she
> lost most of her possessions in the fire.
> 
> Mr. Hoffman believes his former home is going to be torn down so he is
> looking for a new place to live while his family stays with relatives.
> 
> "You spend all your money on Christmas, thinking you are going to have
> a great year and an awesome holiday, and then this happens and you are
> stuck with nothing," he said.
> 
> The provincial government provides funding for 72 hours of emergency
> assistance, which is administered by the municipality.
> 
> About 40 people have been put up at local hotels and can stay there
> under the assistance program until tomorrow afternoon. They are also
> eligible for a daily food allowance of $45 for three days and a
> one-time clothing allowance of up to $150.
> 
> "They are thankful for the assistance," said John Evanochko, who is
> administering the assistance program on behalf of the city.
> 
> "It is very traumatic to be chased out of your home by a fire."
> 
> Officials with the provincial Ministry of Employment and Income
> Assistance have been meeting with the residents to discuss other
> programs that may be available after the 72-hour emergency assistance
> period is over, including short-term housing.
> 
> According to Mr. Evanochko, a number of Surrey residents dropped off
> water, food and blankets after learning about the fire. The Surrey Fire
> Department is also setting up a bank account for people who wish to
> donate money.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20061229_211947_5068
> VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) - Investigators say they haven't been able to
> establish a cause yet for the massive fire that rampaged through a
> Surrey apartment complex near 72nd and King George Highway yesterday,
> leaving 100 people homeless. Battalion Chief Brock Dorward with the
> Surrey Fire Department says they do know the blaze started in a
> specific second-floor apartment.  They can't investigate further until
> they can speak to the woman who lives in the apartment and her
> neighbours, to see if something like a cigarette or candle is involved.
> So far they are having difficulty establishing contact with the
> residents.
> 
>   The resident being treated for extremely serious smoke inhalation is
> still in VGH's hyperbaric chamber, but he has been stabilized. The
> insurance company for the building is now in charge of when people will
> be allowed back in to sift through their belongings, and the initial
> damage estimate to the building is four million dollars.  In the
> meantime, 49 people are now using emergency shelter services.
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