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David Schreck <schreck@wimsey.com> wrote:

>Exagerations and distortions include: attacks on Harcourt with the 
>implication that he is somehow responsible for events he just learned of; 

Well, speaking for myself, I only point out the events which the Permier
SHOULD HAVE KNOWN about.  You see, David, I have stated here several times
that I don't blame Harcourt for what happened in Nanaimo, but for how he
has handled it so far.  So, if it is any consolation to you, he is not a
crook in my eyes, only an incredibly incompetent fool.  But, as for the
truthfullness or honesty of his statements and actions, I usually tend to
show examples of what I am complaining about, as in my posts this
afternoon. There are some irreconcillable differences between the Premier's
statements and the actions of his government.

>attempts to generalize the deeds of a few to anyone who ever legitimately 
>dealt with NCHS or the NDP; 

Aaaahh, well, those are not just attempts, David, they happen to be quite
clear facts.  I have made several refernces here to the Law of Agency.
Regardless of your statements to the contrary, it has been shown by quite a
few reputable people that far from being some secret creation of Stupich,
the NCHS and its many subsidiaries were the creation of the Nanaimo NDP and
were very well connected to the provincial Caucus.  You may not like it,
but thems the breaks.

>attempts to characterize all activities of NCHS as illegal or immoral.  

I happen to think that the "illegal" part has already been admitted to and
the "immoral" part woud, I suppose, depend on each person's idea of
morality.  To me the NCHS's mere existence  is immoral, you, I expect have
different moral standards than I.

>Most importantly, attempts to appear distant 
>from the standards of the past because the currect participants recently 
>changed their party name from one right wing shell to another.

That's a curious statement to make.  Can you be a bit more enlightening on
that?  I mean c'mon David, don't be coy, you're amongst friends here you
can call a spade a spade and a Socred a Socred.  After all you've called
them much worse than just Socreds, haven't you?

>But I know that this newsgroup is only inhabited with altruistic seekers 
>of enlightenment, so why not say precisely what should be done about the 
>relevations pointed to in the Parks Report. 

A very good reason.  It is not for non-members of the NDP to clean up the
mess.  We have not created it and we have not allowed it to ooze around for
some 40 years.  Here's how it works:  It's your party, so you go and clean
it up.  When the voters decide that it is clean enough, they may consider
voting for it again in some very distant future.

Look at what happened to Grace! Here's is one of the least dirty Socreds,
one who has spoken out openly against the slime of the der Zalm regime, one
who left rather than being associated with it.  Then she gets called back
by the faithful to help them clean up the party and restore some
credibility, she runs in a "safe Socred" riding and the voters still don't
want her.

>So precisely spell out the 
>expectations (why do I feel that they ultimately lead to the 
>disappearance of the NDP and the unquestioned election of another right 
>wing coalition?).

You know how it is David, if we didn't have the NDP we'd have to invent it.
Nobody with any knowledge of BC politics is realisticaly expecting the NDP
to disappear.  There is a place for a left wing party, if for no other
purpose than to keep them kind hearted folks out of the Liberal Party.  :-)

As for the coalition, I realize that that is the one thing the NDP would
like to see so that it can use it as a rallying cry to consolidate the left
wing.  Sorry to disappoint you old boy, it ain't gonna happen.  Welcome to
the multiparty system.  Get used to it.  It is around to stay.  Wacky's
tactic of polarizing the scene was no doubt politically smart, but in the
long run BC as a province gained nothing from it.  Read the political
history of the province, you may learn some interesting lessons from it.





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