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Article #63621Re: Gun FACTS
From: Cliff Meek
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 12:04
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 12:04
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In article <rsutc-1411941532030001@nsc189t100.twu.ca>, rsutc@twu.ca says... > >In article <3T0qVc3w165w@aroga.wimsey.com>, pook@aroga.wimsey.com (Jim >Pook) wrote: > >> How Public Opinion Polls Mislead Politicians >> Comments Made at the Fed Up Rally, Parliament Hill >> September 22, 1994 >> H. Taylor Buckner >> ><<lots of interesting stuff deleted>> > >I wonder if the pro gun lobby would care to try their hand at writing gun >control legislation that would recognize their hobby and yet improve the >liklihood of assault victims surviving because there were fewer deadly >weapons with which to conduct attacks available to the less responsible. >After all, it may be people rather than guns that kill, but it is a heck >of a lot easier to kill someone with a gun than without one. The present laws provide the necessary protection if they were enforced. However the answer to your question is that the NFA ( National Firearms Association) has had a complete firearms law package for a lot of years now. It may have been around since 1978. It has been given to the gov't several times and ignored. It included a training and licensing system similar to the pilots license system and a full range of penalties for misuse. > >What would the gun hobbiests accept? No controls at all? Better ones? >What would they consider better? The present package needs to be rewritten as it is one of the most confusing peices of legislation on the books. Judges have been complaining for years that it one of the worst written peices of laws on the books. But whenever new laws have been added there has been no effort to clean up the old mess. The present laws are such that you can be convicted and sent away for 5 years for crimes that you didn't commit. The analogy would be convicted of speeding because your car is capable of breaking the speed limit or because a cop took it out and took it over the speed limit. The law also defines as a full auto gun anything which can be made into a part for a full auto gun, the implications of that little gem is frightening. Our current FAC program does everything that a registration system could accomplish. Given that most firearms used in crime were illegally aquired a registration system would have no effect on those guns. All the last peice of legislation has done is penalize law abiding citizens and has had no effect on the criminal misuse of guns. One example. The last bill introduced magazine limits to 10 for pistols and 5 for rifles. Stated reason, to make the streets safer. However it is now, after that this has become law and registered handgun owners have at great expense altered their magazines that the police are switching over to high capacity firearms. If the law was effective then there would not be a need for a police magazine capacity that is illegal for most citizens. Why do they need high capacity? Gee the criminals are ignoring the laws regarding magazine capacity, what a surprise that someone who illegally aquires a firearm ignored the magazine capacity laws. Most laws on the books were PR exercises by the gov't to deflect attention from more serious failings by the governing party and as such are directed towards the only group that will obey them, the same group that was not breaking the law in the first place. Cliff
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