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Article #63624Re: Gun FACTS
From: Dennis O'Connor~
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 12:16
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 12:16
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rsutc@twu.ca (Rick Sutcliffe) writes: ] I wonder if the pro gun lobby would care to try their hand at writing gun ] control legislation that would recognize their hobby It's not a hobby, Rick. The US 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting or target shooting. It's about keeping power in the hands of the citizenry, instead of in the hands of government officials. And as Jefferson and Mao would agree, ultimately, political power comes from the muzzle of a gun. ] and yet improve the liklihood of assault victims surviving because ] there were fewer deadly weapons with which to conduct attacks Surveys recently posted to t.p.g. show that the best way to increase the probability of assault victyems surviving is to allow them to carry guns. ] available to the less responsible. Other than the already-in-force prohibitions on convicted felons and the mentally-incompetent possessing firearms, what criteria do you have in mind for determining who these "less responsible" are ? ] After all, it may be people rather than guns that kill, but it is a heck ] of a lot easier to kill someone with a gun than without one. Au contraire. Pushing people off tall buildings is cheaper and easier. ] What would the gun hobbiests accept? It's not a hobby, Rick. Many people own guns for the same reason the police carry them. Many people own guns for the same reason the Army has them. Many people own guns because in some areas of the US and Canada, you _need_ a gun to survive. (e.g. Alaska) ] No controls at all? Better ones? What would they consider better? Fewer than exist now, Rick. We already have bans on sales to minors, possession by felons, and possession by those pronounced mentally incompetent in a court of law. We already have licensing of weapons of mass destruction like artillery pieces. IMHO, that's all that is needed. Bans and licensing of machine-guns should be revoked, waiting periods should be revoked, bans on any semi-auto should be revoked, and bans on certain 12-ga shotguns should be revoked. Concealed carry permits for non-felons should be made non-discretionary and without heinous restrictions, because experience shows that concealed carry decreases crime and saves lives. -- Dennis O'Connor doconnor@sedona.intel.com Intel i960(R) Microprocessor Division Solely responsible for what I do.
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