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Article #63643Re: Gun FACTS
From: Dennis O'Connor~
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:03
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:03
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rsutc@twu.ca (Rick Sutcliffe) writes: ] So, guns gradually become more an more common, and so do crimes involving ] guns. Even if this is true, it is irrelevant. It's not the nubmer of crimes "with guns" that matters : ity's the number of crimes. Or do you think being murdered by knife or by gasoline is somehow less heinous than being murdered with a gun ? Now, if we dispense with the irrelevant "guns with crime" measure, and use the relevant "violent crime" measure, we usually find that as legal gun ownership becomes easier and more common, violent crime decreases. There are numerous examples and studies to support this conjecture; there are no credible studies (AFAIK) that show that increasing legal gun availability as causing an increase in violent crime. Given this, we should recast your next question, ] Are you saying that since existing controls have not worked there ] should not be any? as a question for you : "Are you saying that since the imposition of existing controls has in many cases benn followed by increases in the levels of violent crime, there should be even more controls ?" It's not a question of "gun control" AKA victem disarmament "not working" : it's a question of it making things worse. -- Dennis O'Connor doconnor@sedona.intel.com Intel i960(R) Microprocessor Division Solely responsible for what I do.
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