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Article #63645Re: Gun FACTS
From: Greg Oster
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:17
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:17
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Allison Scott MacEachern (maceache@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote: : William Christie writes: : >We are implying that guns require many more steps to be : >dangerous. An explosive by it's nature is (potentially) : >dangerous just sitting there. A : >firearm requires loading as well as a target in front of it's : >muzzle and an external force to release the firing mechanism : >iff the gun is loaded. : Wow!! Guess now I know what they mean by 'smart weapons'; they : have to have a target in front of the muzzle before they fire! I : had no idea that small arms technology has advanced so far over : the last 20 years. I remember once being really worried on a : range when someone had a misfire with a .22, stood up and pointed : the gun at my stomach, asking "What's wrong with this?" Almost : had a coronary before indulging in a little talk on range : procedure. Hmm.. sounds like that "someone" forgot a fair bit of their firearm training course... And pointing a gun at your stomach has little to do with range "procedure", but EVERYTHING to do with basic firearm safety. I would also be quite worried in the same situation, and for good reason... : Nice to know guns only go off when they're pointed at targets today. So the word "requires" might be a little ambigious in William's post. The point he is making, however, (and which he makes again a later in his post) is that the bullet is going to travel to a target which is in front of the guns muzzle (excluding, of course, changes in direction due to ricochets). Explosives tend to go off in all directions: in theory (I suppose) the target would be some sort of sphere of a given radius for a given amount of explosive. Unless you can control the effects of the explosive (e.g. as in firing a bullet) the "target" is a much larger area than that defined by a single bullet path... : explosives, how often do people kill themselves/others : accidentally in Canada wwith explosives every year, compared with : the gun numbers? In raw numbers I suspect the deaths due to explosives would be much less. Ok. Now tell me how many explosions there are per year, compared with the number of shots fired per year (and no, you can't count firing a bullet in your "explosion" count). How many times are guns used compared to how many times explosives are used? I have absolutely no idea what these numbers would be, but I strongly suspect that guns are used a lot more than explosives, and that the ratio of deaths caused by guns to gun usage would be much less than the ratio of deaths caused by explosions (excluding gun shots) to the number of explosives used. Someone with the actual numbers (and proper references to those numbers) could prove/refute my point (and is quite welcome to do so). : Scott MacEachern Later... Greg Oster oster@cs.usask.ca Department of Computational Science University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, CANADA
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106cdd,ceef072af7f91422 X-Google-Attributes: gid106cdd,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,ceef072af7f91422 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-Thread: 1044e7,ceef072af7f91422 X-Google-Attributes: gid1044e7,public X-Google-Thread: fb374,ceef072af7f91422 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb374,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-11-17 21:47:25 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!nntp.gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!rutgers!cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!hookup!olivea!news.hal.COM!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!oster From: oster@cs.usask.ca (Greg Oster) Newsgroups: bc.general,can.legal,can.politics,talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: Gun FACTS Followup-To: bc.general,can.legal,can.politics,talk.politics.guns Date: 17 Nov 1994 17:17:54 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Lines: 66 Message-ID: <3ag382$f6t@tribune.usask.ca> References: <1994Nov16.040333.18533@cs.sfu.ca> <k9RVVc3w165w@aroga.wimsey.com> <CzDpoL.FA2@Faximum.COM> <3aeaj9$edb@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> <Nov17.043137.88015@acs.ucalgary.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: skribe.usask.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]