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Re: LEARN ABOUT GREENPEACE, read the facts!

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From: Robert N Thomas
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 1994 10:29
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In article <1994Feb4.090535.8610@truffula.sj.ca.us> cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:
>
>Actually, an FBI agent attempted to get some EarthFirst!ers to
>sabotage a power transmission line leading to a power plant.
>The FBI agent seduced one of the EarthFirst!ers and rented a van
>and welding equipment, but the EarthFirst!ers, being nonviolent
>and smelling a rat, didn't go along.

     This is interesting, please supply sources as I have done...

>This film is now completely discredited, but it goes on!

    The only information I have is verbally in passing, from Share Our 
Resources.. They say that despite Greenpeaces attempts to stop that film 
from being aired, it was aired in Denmark.  Legally Greenpeace has been 
investing great effort, posting injuction after injunction after injunction 
to try and stop the spread of this film any more then it has.  I heard they 
managed to get one of them to stick, hence I think it is held up in court.

I have not however heard anything about the film being "discredited". 

If this is true Cameron, please post your sources, and why you think this.

   The part I "heard" about the film being aired is now confirmed by a 
number of posters that mention most of the article I wrote as being
essentially correct from what they have watched of the documentary..  
The only point of contention thus far is the part about the nuclear plant
in Arizona..




Cameron, please post your sources and why you think the film is discredited.



>>   Interviewed in the documentary is Earth First! chief Mike Rosella,
>[...]
>
>Because there is no organization named "Earth First!", anyone can
>call her or himself its "chief."  A filmmaker may hire an actor to
>play the role.  The name "Earth First!" is not protected by any
>trademark, so anyone can do anything they like under that name.
>The film is utterly discredited.

Dictionary definition ORGANIZATION:

OR-GAN-I-ZA'-TION noun 1.  The act of organizing, or the state of being
  organized;  also, that which is organized.   2.  An animal or vegetable
  organism.    3.  A number of individuals systematically united for some end
  or work; as, a military organization.   4.  The officials, committeemen, etc.,
  who control a political party; also called a machine.   5.  Any combination
  of parts.

  So all the stuff on the news that I have ever seen about Earth First! is a
fairy tail??  Do these people RANDOMLY BUMP into one another, and without any
plan what so ever, somehow arrive with not purpose in mind, and SPIKES somehow
appear in trees..

   BTW, under definition #3 I don't see any mention on copyright..  The MAFIA
is probably a non copyright name as well...

   Also, quoting one of the other posters, TV Stations in Denmark usually
do a "good job" in these cases...


>>P.S. - If you want more information, please contact your local Share Our
>>       resources office..   If you don't have one, then please try:
>>
>>Share Our Resources
>>3416 - 4th Ave
>>Port Alberni, British Columbia,
>>Canada,  V9Y 4H2
>>Tel Number 604 723-0551   Fax: 604 723-0552.
>
>Ok, Robert, it's follow the money time.  Please tell us who
>Share Our Resources' major funders are.
>

   It is a LOBBY GROUP, just like Greenpeace...  And it's major funders is
the forestry sector..  They however do not have a few hundred secret bank
accounts with 10-20 MILLION in them...  Most of their information which I
have available here is in the form of pamphlets and documents which are not
directly produced by them..

   Are you trying to say that Greenpeace, a MULTI-NATIONAL special interest's 
organization,  worth MILLIONS (if not billions secretly), who have been pumping
the UseNet full of their own "Press Releases" for about a year now, is totally 
unbiased?

  The documents I picked up from Share Our Resources, usually are produced by
all kinds of various names like Ministry of Forests, and other's stamped on 
them.  Share Our Resources in this case act mostly like a clearinghouse of 
these prepared information sheets, and pass them out freely to any and all 
who want them..

  Share Our Resources, did not write the little article I posted, they
meerly passed me a copy of it..  And I thought you all would find it
interesting reading..

  Like I said in the past, I am pretty ignorant to all the issues, I just
have a pile of pamplets, produced from all diferent sources.. In my opinion,
I see Share Our Resources them as trying their best to provide accurate 
information.. 

  If I post something which is "inaccurate" I am sure somebody will point
out my error..  <GRIN>  I do make mistakes...  Even typos.. <GRIN>

   Why not let everyone read a few points from the other side of the fence.
I feel the need for a bit of balance here..

   I am wondering who Greenpeaces major contributors are... I don't think
we will ever really know, especially given the possible existance of 
"secret" bank accounts with tens of millions of dollars in them..  At least
with Share Our Resources they are "open about it", and are open about 
who produced what pamphlet..

>Cameron in San Jose


Cheers from British Columbia, where the action is.
   

						---- Robb -----
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Subject: Re: LEARN ABOUT GREENPEACE, read the facts!
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From: rthomas@hakatac.almanac.bc.ca (Robert N Thomas)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 94 10:29:59 GMT
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